Jan. 10, 2026
Mike McDaniel Fired: Did One Name Change Everything for the Dolphins? | Dave Hyde Dives In
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The Miami Dolphins have officially parted ways with head coach Mike McDaniel — and the ripple effects are just beginning.
On this episode of The Fish Tank, O.J. McDuffie and
Seth Levit are joined by Sun-Sentinel columnist Dave Hyde to react in real time
to the stunning decision by Stephen Ross. The trio dives into why the move
happened, what the Dolphins’ GM search may have revealed behind the scenes, and
how the sudden availability of John Harbaugh may have changed everything.
They also tackle the tough questions:
· Was this about one
season — or an accumulation of mistakes?
· Did McDaniel lose control of the culture?
· How much did the Tua Tagovailoa situation factor into the decision?
· And is Miami headed for a full rebuild… again?
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[SPEAKER_01]: you're now diving into the fish cage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, gentlemen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the day started on the way and it is taking a, I don't know, left on the right turn, I guess, depending on what side of the coin that you're on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Seth left it here with O.J.
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[SPEAKER_03]: McDuffie and the award-winning columnist from Sun Sentinel Dave Hyde.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We
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[SPEAKER_03]: at Nazion for quite some time, but what a what a turn of events from the Miami Dolphins having their second straight losing season 7 and 10, Mike McDaniel's end of the year press conference, or post game press conference, and then his his his press conference the following day at 4 p.m. on that on Black Monday,
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[SPEAKER_03]: sound like a man who was disappointed in the performance but confident you know we prepared to go to work on the coach of this team until I'm told otherwise even so even before that some of the decisions that were made a lot of people felt that he had to have the confidence that he would be able to maintain his job when he went to a 7th round pick as a rookie starter benching to a tongue-of-i-law uh
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[SPEAKER_03]: And lo and behold, things start to change across the entire national football league landscape when the Ravens partways with John Harbaugh.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What are your initial thoughts when you saw that statement for the Miami Dolphins?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's Steven Ross.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Unlike the statement a year ago, this statement was we have relieved Mike McDonald's his duties.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think the foreshadowing was when the dolphins spent weeks compiling a list of general manager candidates that they were going to interview and they released it on Monday, a lot of thought went into that no doubt.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then right around the time, the news of Harbobby and Fire from Baltimore broke, they announced another candidate who was the Ellie Charter's assistant general manager, who was the guard.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it was like they're sending up a signal
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we're interested, you know, this is the organization you can build if you come here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, was like, yeah, you're always surprised when someone's fired and, you know, who didn't like, who didn't root for Mike's quirky side and his unflammable approach football ways, but ultimately when the dolphins clean out their general manager need a new quarterback,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think with our ball available, I'm assuming we'll find out coming up, but I'm assuming that they decide to make it a clean sweep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Dave you are a guy that's obviously respected in the no down here got a lot of resources down here now we found out around 10 30 day winded Dave high find out about about the firing of Mike Nick Daniel I found out just when you found out when I actually did Joe rose from 6 to 10 and I
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[SPEAKER_04]: driving into my driveway and I got a text saying McDaniels out and so it was right about this time every the whole world found out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sounds like us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no one said knowledge here Jews.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, well, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like when I was doing work for the team, doing the fin ciders, we had to find out through Adam's after somebody that something's going on with the team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were right there in the buildings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I figured, I hope they give you the love that they didn't show us when we were in the building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No love.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and say listen, Dave has been I don't say hard on them, but you've been pretty direct in in the direction that you thought the team needed to take certainly felt for quite some time they needed to move on from Chris Greer, which happened in October.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think some people felt that they could have made it a clean sweep at that point in time, especially after that loss to the Browns, which was was really a low point, not just of the season,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Since the rebuild began, I think going back to that 2020 draft or the 2019 decision to quote unquote tank, you know, to to be beat up by the Browns a team that you thought, well, this is one, well, we'll, we'll write the season and, and you just get run out of the, you know, just get run out of the building there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But when you look back at, is it one season, is it an accumulation of things that you think Cosmic Dangle is job, or do you think it truly is the availability of a coach with the resume of John Harbour?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it's D all the above, I think the accumulation of, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let love anything else 35 and 35 record.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it was mediocre and diminishing each year just a little but diminishing you throw in, you know, I always thought Mike was learning how to be a head coach and the question would be if you're going to keep him you and decided he has learned how to be a head coach, you know, and and.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And what do you base that on I from what they were saying five and three record over the last half of the season would be the basis.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that's not, that's not a lot, but he was harder this year than previous years on, you know, discipline not, that doesn't mean he was hard, but he was harder.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But ultimately, I think, look, they talked to a lot of general manager candidates and we won't know what they said, what they told them about Mike.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But when a guy like Harbaugh,
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[SPEAKER_04]: He can bring instant credibility, instant trust to your fans that, okay, here's a professional taken charge.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't mean he's going to win, it doesn't mean you're going to get over New England and Buffalo in the next five years, but at least you can trust it a professional football guy is running the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a great point right there and you know, like you said, there's no guarantees we'll get horrible, but we've had so many first year guys, first time guys that hate coach, we we've seen how that's worked out for us, it hasn't honestly, you think in established guy like hardball, I don't know, well, so we can even consider other than a hardball or somewhere that happened down the line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was telling Seth and I'm not a fan of this guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think we need a Jimmy Johnson type guy to come in and change the culture of what was created in that locker room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it was clubbed to me at first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, it was really, really nice and plush and you know, real easy and convenient for guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do they need to go extreme opposite of that with a veteran coach right now?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, that's the way to go, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, look when they had Brian Flores and his iron fist ways, they bring in Mike McDaniel and it was, I called it a culture of comfort.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he wanted to make everybody happy, make sure everybody was paid even overpaid when they didn't have to do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then that led to, you saw, with Jalen Darams, the entire recill not shown up on time to practice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so he got run over by players because of he was too nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, the first time coach veteran coach, you know what it comes down to, I always say it just comes down to the guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, there's a million ways up the mountain, but you got to get the right guy to take you there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You look at Chicago, Ben Johnson looks to be the right guy there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: First time Sean McVay when he went to the Rams.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Meanwhile, you got a guy like Andy Reed.
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[SPEAKER_04]: ditched by Philadelphia goes to Kansas City and they're in the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is the first year at St.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Flight and three generations are not in the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's whoever the dolphins need the right guy and they haven't been able to find it in the Steve Ross this time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's been far too long for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you said something interesting when you were talking about the general manager interviews in general manager search and just probably, what they would say about somebody like a hardball being available.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I wonder in general, those conversations that are being had,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't fathom that the question about Mike McDaniel wouldn't be asked, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're sitting there in your interviewing general manager, what do you think about what we have?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about, you know, everyone said you can't force you're not going to get a real candidate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A candidate worth, you know, is waiting salt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're forcing the coach upon him, we heard about the Dennis Hickey situation, everything else.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so if they at least asked the question, which is why you had all these different people involved, you know, what do you think it might make Daniel?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have to believe that the combination of John Harbaugh becoming available.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And whatever feedback they got from guys had to sway Stephen Ross to get to the point where he made this decision.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'd be curious of the question, look, if you're interviewing for the job and everything you've been reading and hearing is they want to keep Mike McDaniel, because that's why you're answer on Mike McDaniel if you want the job, because maybe they're asking the question that if you can't work with Mike McDaniel, you're not going to get the job.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, I'm curious myself and how they handled that, but
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[SPEAKER_04]: Certainly, the optics are when hardball became available things changed.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What does he how it plays out now?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Can can
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[SPEAKER_04]: The Steve Ross and Harbock, and they work out a deal, can Steve Ross close the deal.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're talking a lot of money, Steve Ross is paying out here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm 19 million for two, reportedly, 19 million for Mike, who knows why he must go between staff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It made me feel a little less badly right now, if you have more.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you always feel bad when someone's fired.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's face it, you know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Not a good day, but that certainly has to ease any pain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, David, and when talking about GMs, you know, whatever they're interviewing and if they feel like a certain way about Mike, you know, I think that at some point the GM kind of has you know, an upper hand at times when they can want to work with somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you get a guy like John Harbour, I think John Harbour would have more of the control over who the GM might.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who the GM is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the other way when it comes to a guy like John Harbour, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: let's start here if you're Steve Ross and your hiring john harbour you're just sliding the keys of the franchise over to him and saying you built an organization okay because that's how you're going to get them i mean that's right especially you're competing with nine other teams or what can the dolphins offer well money obviously and then the chance to build an organization and it's a challenge you're going to grow Dave apparently is like
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a challenging bill that if it's horrible or anybody else who ever stepping in, let's say we're back to the full rebuild here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that brings me to my next question, and you mentioned to and the money that's owed to the tour.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's the assumption that to his gone, he's his final days are here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We heard the quote from, I guess, Barry and whoever the other writers were, they are that that approached him on on that locker clean out day, you know, what do you think about a fresh start and he said, that'd be dope.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A fresh start, you're going to have a fresh start here in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's got a fresh start.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the question becomes,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, with that general manager, hey, well, what do you think about two of what, how would you handle this situation that we owe this guy 90 something million dollars and what's your assessment and so I would ask those questions, if I were one of the 17 people that was in on those general manager interviews, so I wonder what has been said there and whoever ends up becoming the head coach, whether it's Harba or somebody else, what they feel about to a tongue of I low and is there still a spot for him on this roster.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's your, your, your dead on that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That'd be the question.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One of the, one of the primary questions you ask it to the guys and, and hopefully you, somebody comes up with a good thought or a new thought of how, how to, how to disengage yourself with to ultimately I think that's what they're doing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And, and, and, and,
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[SPEAKER_04]: the least painful way possible to do disengage yourself.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if that means keeping them and swallowing a salary and as a backup, if that's what the new coach wants to do, that we find, and if he wants to move on, then you move on from them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But a new coach, and Jews, you tell me from the player's perspective, being benched by your current coach and the coach that elevated you and the coach that showed you the 700 plays and the coach that got you paid the $200 million and little bird he told me and all these things, being benched by him has to hurt more and feel differently than a new coach coming in and saying, if you're going to start, you're going to have to earn it, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm guessing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for me, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and also, you know, what you think about it, you know, four years ago, that had to be prerequisite for being the head coach for the money dolphins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you work with Tua?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, that's no longer the situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One being benched to many skills and everything like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think anybody that's coming here and say that they have to work with Tua anymore because that ship that sailed for the money dolphins looked the last three games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't get in, he didn't start his thirst or in quarterback, maybe four with the new guy we brought in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but I'm telling him right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I'm just saying so like now that was a whole different story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then now new guy didn't have to worry about what Mike had to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike had to convince I think Stephen Ross that he could rehabilitate to a tongue of a low and he did that for for a little bit of a spell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I think coming in everybody like you talk about that, you know, I play for Don Shula, but man that we have to bust our butts to show him proof for Jimmy Johnson when he came.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but that was an established guy, you know, of course anybody got a show improved, but that was a established guy that was demanding that, you know, everybody was on on head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want I want a coach that comes in here that's going to have guys looking on edge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got to be on edge a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the other thing you have to consider is Mike.
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[SPEAKER_04]: made us all offence revolve around what to or could do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And obviously with Tyreek and Jaylen models speed, that became the focal point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Is it a new coach has willing to say, I'm going to be, I hope not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hope not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I'll be wrong guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hope not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we've seen the two is told, the limitations.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He can't see over the line.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is ankles from Alabama.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He can't run.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's loud in the stadium sometimes too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's loud.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's loud in the hollow crowd mood.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I think it's I think you know what make a fresh cut would be my idea, but because it's so much money so too, I agree with you Seth that it's going to be up to the new coach to do whatever you want.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just think it's a more reasonable conversation or at least you have more options.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, to me, to a, and Mike McDaniel was never going to ever work again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that, to me, had been severed based on everything that we've heard or potentially have heard or certainly that we saw.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But with a new coach, you might get, uh,
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[SPEAKER_03]: that could be the dope fresh start that Tua was looking for and then he has an opportunity to at least earn his spot on the roster while they try to figure out pre-June, post-June, do we go, run it, you know, all of those things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that his feelings would have to be a little less hurt if he didn't earn it from this coach as opposed to being demoted from the guy that had built you up higher than anybody else.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I look at a different way that Mike McDaniel built to invest in his career and I'm but with this contract, it was going to give him every single opportunity to succeed and if he can't make it with Mike McDaniel here, how is he going to make it with somebody who isn't going to be as loving.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we'll see, we'll see how it works.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that's what he needed is what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's definitely, you know, sports is full of surprises or news stories and then maybe we get one here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I mean, honestly, two of two is going to have another decade in the league, I think no matter what will it be as it started somewhere, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not going to be North anywhere, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's not Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not going to be one of those places, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just unfortunate that, you know, I think that everything has to be chopped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris, Mike, I think two is the next one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: a lot of people felt that from the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So look to your point, though, it is, OJ and I did something the other day and we talked about one reason if you can't Mike McDaniel one reason to let him go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think we both landed on that it was time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're not the guys who, you know, there are certain people that love to just fire everybody and scream and yell and talk about who sucks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's not our style, but we did think the organization needed to move on and move forward.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And here's an example
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we talked about it, but you wrote that this was one of the, not the most damaging season in Miami Dolphins history.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If the net result is that Mike McDaniel is removed and a coach with John Harbaugh's pedigree ends up taking this job, does that turn, does your headline change?
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if they make chicken salad here,
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[SPEAKER_04]: If they do the gerryz thing, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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[SPEAKER_04]: A roster that is an issue.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're still looking up at Buffalo, Josh Allen, and New England would Drake may.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I still stand by that damaging quote, Seth, it's good work, but I see your point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Something, something good can come out of the mess.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That, yeah, that was the question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, a lot remains to be seen, very excited to see what happens from here and to read what your thoughts are on those things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is Dave Hyde, since I know, well, now about to be, I don't know, I don't want to say TV star, but I imagine you're getting a lot of these calls, like the one you just got from us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, every, every sad day like this, I get calls.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Can you talk about it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I see what I'd like one day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What are you often
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[SPEAKER_04]: That would be nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That would be nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's something I've never done in my career.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If it happens, can we, can we?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can beat my vegetables, too, to make sure I stay healthy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't forget about the Olympics.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We are grandfathered in, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it'll happen sooner than we all think.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Great stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dave, thank you so much.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Dave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at peace tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: you're now diving into the fish cage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, gentlemen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the day started on the way and it is taking a, I don't know, left on the right turn, I guess, depending on what side of the coin that you're on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Seth left it here with O.J.
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[SPEAKER_03]: McDuffie and the award-winning columnist from Sun Sentinel Dave Hyde.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We
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[SPEAKER_03]: at Nazion for quite some time, but what a what a turn of events from the Miami Dolphins having their second straight losing season 7 and 10, Mike McDaniel's end of the year press conference, or post game press conference, and then his his his press conference the following day at 4 p.m. on that on Black Monday,
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[SPEAKER_03]: sound like a man who was disappointed in the performance but confident you know we prepared to go to work on the coach of this team until I'm told otherwise even so even before that some of the decisions that were made a lot of people felt that he had to have the confidence that he would be able to maintain his job when he went to a 7th round pick as a rookie starter benching to a tongue-of-i-law uh
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[SPEAKER_03]: And lo and behold, things start to change across the entire national football league landscape when the Ravens partways with John Harbaugh.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What are your initial thoughts when you saw that statement for the Miami Dolphins?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's Steven Ross.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Unlike the statement a year ago, this statement was we have relieved Mike McDonald's his duties.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think the foreshadowing was when the dolphins spent weeks compiling a list of general manager candidates that they were going to interview and they released it on Monday, a lot of thought went into that no doubt.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then right around the time, the news of Harbobby and Fire from Baltimore broke, they announced another candidate who was the Ellie Charter's assistant general manager, who was the guard.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it was like they're sending up a signal
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we're interested, you know, this is the organization you can build if you come here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, was like, yeah, you're always surprised when someone's fired and, you know, who didn't like, who didn't root for Mike's quirky side and his unflammable approach football ways, but ultimately when the dolphins clean out their general manager need a new quarterback,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think with our ball available, I'm assuming we'll find out coming up, but I'm assuming that they decide to make it a clean sweep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Dave you are a guy that's obviously respected in the no down here got a lot of resources down here now we found out around 10 30 day winded Dave high find out about about the firing of Mike Nick Daniel I found out just when you found out when I actually did Joe rose from 6 to 10 and I
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[SPEAKER_04]: driving into my driveway and I got a text saying McDaniels out and so it was right about this time every the whole world found out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sounds like us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no one said knowledge here Jews.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, well, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like when I was doing work for the team, doing the fin ciders, we had to find out through Adam's after somebody that something's going on with the team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were right there in the buildings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I figured, I hope they give you the love that they didn't show us when we were in the building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No love.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and say listen, Dave has been I don't say hard on them, but you've been pretty direct in in the direction that you thought the team needed to take certainly felt for quite some time they needed to move on from Chris Greer, which happened in October.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think some people felt that they could have made it a clean sweep at that point in time, especially after that loss to the Browns, which was was really a low point, not just of the season,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Since the rebuild began, I think going back to that 2020 draft or the 2019 decision to quote unquote tank, you know, to to be beat up by the Browns a team that you thought, well, this is one, well, we'll, we'll write the season and, and you just get run out of the, you know, just get run out of the building there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But when you look back at, is it one season, is it an accumulation of things that you think Cosmic Dangle is job, or do you think it truly is the availability of a coach with the resume of John Harbour?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it's D all the above, I think the accumulation of, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let love anything else 35 and 35 record.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it was mediocre and diminishing each year just a little but diminishing you throw in, you know, I always thought Mike was learning how to be a head coach and the question would be if you're going to keep him you and decided he has learned how to be a head coach, you know, and and.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And what do you base that on I from what they were saying five and three record over the last half of the season would be the basis.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that's not, that's not a lot, but he was harder this year than previous years on, you know, discipline not, that doesn't mean he was hard, but he was harder.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But ultimately, I think, look, they talked to a lot of general manager candidates and we won't know what they said, what they told them about Mike.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But when a guy like Harbaugh,
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[SPEAKER_04]: He can bring instant credibility, instant trust to your fans that, okay, here's a professional taken charge.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't mean he's going to win, it doesn't mean you're going to get over New England and Buffalo in the next five years, but at least you can trust it a professional football guy is running the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a great point right there and you know, like you said, there's no guarantees we'll get horrible, but we've had so many first year guys, first time guys that hate coach, we we've seen how that's worked out for us, it hasn't honestly, you think in established guy like hardball, I don't know, well, so we can even consider other than a hardball or somewhere that happened down the line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was telling Seth and I'm not a fan of this guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think we need a Jimmy Johnson type guy to come in and change the culture of what was created in that locker room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it was clubbed to me at first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, it was really, really nice and plush and you know, real easy and convenient for guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do they need to go extreme opposite of that with a veteran coach right now?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, that's the way to go, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, look when they had Brian Flores and his iron fist ways, they bring in Mike McDaniel and it was, I called it a culture of comfort.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he wanted to make everybody happy, make sure everybody was paid even overpaid when they didn't have to do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then that led to, you saw, with Jalen Darams, the entire recill not shown up on time to practice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so he got run over by players because of he was too nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, the first time coach veteran coach, you know what it comes down to, I always say it just comes down to the guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, there's a million ways up the mountain, but you got to get the right guy to take you there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You look at Chicago, Ben Johnson looks to be the right guy there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: First time Sean McVay when he went to the Rams.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Meanwhile, you got a guy like Andy Reed.
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[SPEAKER_04]: ditched by Philadelphia goes to Kansas City and they're in the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is the first year at St.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Flight and three generations are not in the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's whoever the dolphins need the right guy and they haven't been able to find it in the Steve Ross this time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's been far too long for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you said something interesting when you were talking about the general manager interviews in general manager search and just probably, what they would say about somebody like a hardball being available.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I wonder in general, those conversations that are being had,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't fathom that the question about Mike McDaniel wouldn't be asked, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're sitting there in your interviewing general manager, what do you think about what we have?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about, you know, everyone said you can't force you're not going to get a real candidate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A candidate worth, you know, is waiting salt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're forcing the coach upon him, we heard about the Dennis Hickey situation, everything else.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so if they at least asked the question, which is why you had all these different people involved, you know, what do you think it might make Daniel?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have to believe that the combination of John Harbaugh becoming available.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And whatever feedback they got from guys had to sway Stephen Ross to get to the point where he made this decision.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'd be curious of the question, look, if you're interviewing for the job and everything you've been reading and hearing is they want to keep Mike McDaniel, because that's why you're answer on Mike McDaniel if you want the job, because maybe they're asking the question that if you can't work with Mike McDaniel, you're not going to get the job.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, I'm curious myself and how they handled that, but
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[SPEAKER_04]: Certainly, the optics are when hardball became available things changed.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What does he how it plays out now?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Can can
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[SPEAKER_04]: The Steve Ross and Harbock, and they work out a deal, can Steve Ross close the deal.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're talking a lot of money, Steve Ross is paying out here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm 19 million for two, reportedly, 19 million for Mike, who knows why he must go between staff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It made me feel a little less badly right now, if you have more.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you always feel bad when someone's fired.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's face it, you know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Not a good day, but that certainly has to ease any pain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, David, and when talking about GMs, you know, whatever they're interviewing and if they feel like a certain way about Mike, you know, I think that at some point the GM kind of has you know, an upper hand at times when they can want to work with somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you get a guy like John Harbour, I think John Harbour would have more of the control over who the GM might.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who the GM is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the other way when it comes to a guy like John Harbour, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: let's start here if you're Steve Ross and your hiring john harbour you're just sliding the keys of the franchise over to him and saying you built an organization okay because that's how you're going to get them i mean that's right especially you're competing with nine other teams or what can the dolphins offer well money obviously and then the chance to build an organization and it's a challenge you're going to grow Dave apparently is like
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a challenging bill that if it's horrible or anybody else who ever stepping in, let's say we're back to the full rebuild here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that brings me to my next question, and you mentioned to and the money that's owed to the tour.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's the assumption that to his gone, he's his final days are here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We heard the quote from, I guess, Barry and whoever the other writers were, they are that that approached him on on that locker clean out day, you know, what do you think about a fresh start and he said, that'd be dope.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A fresh start, you're going to have a fresh start here in Miami.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's got a fresh start.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the question becomes,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, with that general manager, hey, well, what do you think about two of what, how would you handle this situation that we owe this guy 90 something million dollars and what's your assessment and so I would ask those questions, if I were one of the 17 people that was in on those general manager interviews, so I wonder what has been said there and whoever ends up becoming the head coach, whether it's Harba or somebody else, what they feel about to a tongue of I low and is there still a spot for him on this roster.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's your, your, your dead on that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That'd be the question.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One of the, one of the primary questions you ask it to the guys and, and hopefully you, somebody comes up with a good thought or a new thought of how, how to, how to disengage yourself with to ultimately I think that's what they're doing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And, and, and, and,
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[SPEAKER_04]: the least painful way possible to do disengage yourself.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if that means keeping them and swallowing a salary and as a backup, if that's what the new coach wants to do, that we find, and if he wants to move on, then you move on from them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But a new coach, and Jews, you tell me from the player's perspective, being benched by your current coach and the coach that elevated you and the coach that showed you the 700 plays and the coach that got you paid the $200 million and little bird he told me and all these things, being benched by him has to hurt more and feel differently than a new coach coming in and saying, if you're going to start, you're going to have to earn it, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm guessing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for me, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and also, you know, what you think about it, you know, four years ago, that had to be prerequisite for being the head coach for the money dolphins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you work with Tua?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, that's no longer the situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One being benched to many skills and everything like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think anybody that's coming here and say that they have to work with Tua anymore because that ship that sailed for the money dolphins looked the last three games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't get in, he didn't start his thirst or in quarterback, maybe four with the new guy we brought in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but I'm telling him right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I'm just saying so like now that was a whole different story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then now new guy didn't have to worry about what Mike had to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike had to convince I think Stephen Ross that he could rehabilitate to a tongue of a low and he did that for for a little bit of a spell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I think coming in everybody like you talk about that, you know, I play for Don Shula, but man that we have to bust our butts to show him proof for Jimmy Johnson when he came.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but that was an established guy, you know, of course anybody got a show improved, but that was a established guy that was demanding that, you know, everybody was on on head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want I want a coach that comes in here that's going to have guys looking on edge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got to be on edge a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the other thing you have to consider is Mike.
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[SPEAKER_04]: made us all offence revolve around what to or could do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And obviously with Tyreek and Jaylen models speed, that became the focal point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Is it a new coach has willing to say, I'm going to be, I hope not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hope not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I'll be wrong guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hope not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we've seen the two is told, the limitations.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He can't see over the line.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is ankles from Alabama.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He can't run.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's loud in the stadium sometimes too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's loud.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's loud in the hollow crowd mood.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I think it's I think you know what make a fresh cut would be my idea, but because it's so much money so too, I agree with you Seth that it's going to be up to the new coach to do whatever you want.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just think it's a more reasonable conversation or at least you have more options.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, to me, to a, and Mike McDaniel was never going to ever work again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that, to me, had been severed based on everything that we've heard or potentially have heard or certainly that we saw.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But with a new coach, you might get, uh,
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[SPEAKER_03]: that could be the dope fresh start that Tua was looking for and then he has an opportunity to at least earn his spot on the roster while they try to figure out pre-June, post-June, do we go, run it, you know, all of those things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that his feelings would have to be a little less hurt if he didn't earn it from this coach as opposed to being demoted from the guy that had built you up higher than anybody else.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I look at a different way that Mike McDaniel built to invest in his career and I'm but with this contract, it was going to give him every single opportunity to succeed and if he can't make it with Mike McDaniel here, how is he going to make it with somebody who isn't going to be as loving.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we'll see, we'll see how it works.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that's what he needed is what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's definitely, you know, sports is full of surprises or news stories and then maybe we get one here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I mean, honestly, two of two is going to have another decade in the league, I think no matter what will it be as it started somewhere, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not going to be North anywhere, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's not Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not going to be one of those places, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just unfortunate that, you know, I think that everything has to be chopped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris, Mike, I think two is the next one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: a lot of people felt that from the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So look to your point, though, it is, OJ and I did something the other day and we talked about one reason if you can't Mike McDaniel one reason to let him go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think we both landed on that it was time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're not the guys who, you know, there are certain people that love to just fire everybody and scream and yell and talk about who sucks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's not our style, but we did think the organization needed to move on and move forward.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And here's an example
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we talked about it, but you wrote that this was one of the, not the most damaging season in Miami Dolphins history.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If the net result is that Mike McDaniel is removed and a coach with John Harbaugh's pedigree ends up taking this job, does that turn, does your headline change?
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if they make chicken salad here,
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[SPEAKER_04]: If they do the gerryz thing, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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[SPEAKER_04]: A roster that is an issue.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're still looking up at Buffalo, Josh Allen, and New England would Drake may.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I still stand by that damaging quote, Seth, it's good work, but I see your point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Something, something good can come out of the mess.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That, yeah, that was the question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, a lot remains to be seen, very excited to see what happens from here and to read what your thoughts are on those things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is Dave Hyde, since I know, well, now about to be, I don't know, I don't want to say TV star, but I imagine you're getting a lot of these calls, like the one you just got from us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, every, every sad day like this, I get calls.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Can you talk about it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I see what I'd like one day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What are you often
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[SPEAKER_04]: That would be nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That would be nice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's something I've never done in my career.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If it happens, can we, can we?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can beat my vegetables, too, to make sure I stay healthy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't forget about the Olympics.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We are grandfathered in, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it'll happen sooner than we all think.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Great stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dave, thank you so much.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Dave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at peace tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah
