Patrick Cobbs: Keep Pushing

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Join us in celebrating the unmatched spirit of Miami and the Dolphins at Unmatched napa dot com and use fish Tank ten for a one time use of ten percent off the bottle. Shop Cheers Miami, Who. 00:01:12 Speaker 2: Down, Oh Jay Juice And this is strictly for I'm a true number one one. 00:01:20 Speaker 3: Of course, y'all just and the Order Nevers boys talk that might have been. 00:01:23 Speaker 4: That pitch tank. 00:01:24 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the fish tank right here on the Miami Dolphins podcast network. Seth Lovitt and the only podcaster to bowl a perfect game and lead the NFL in receptions. O. J McDuffie, Juice, how are we feeling? 00:01:38 Speaker 4: Man? 00:01:38 Speaker 5: Is that verified? Big Seth? 00:01:40 Speaker 1: It's it's right until someone tells me I'm wrong. I mean, there are a lot of guys have led the league in receptions. I can't imagine any of them other than you has bowl. 00:01:48 Speaker 4: A perfect game. 00:01:49 Speaker 5: Well, I hope that's I hope that's correct. At least I have some fought in history that no. People might not find out about it, but I'll take it, Big Seth, for sure. 00:01:56 Speaker 1: If they listen to this show, Juice, they will find out about it. You just got to carve your niche, man, and that's what we've done. Speaking of carving a niche, I'm fired up for this, dude, because we've heard this guy's name come up time and time again, and we certainly cheered for him when he played for the Miami dolphins and now he's a coach and there's just so much to talk about. But Patrick Cobbs takes a break from the recruiting trail to dive into the fish tank. 00:02:19 Speaker 4: Patrick, how are you feeling, man? 00:02:20 Speaker 3: I'm feeling great, man. I appreciate y'all having me on. Man, I'm excited. 00:02:23 Speaker 5: Yeah, Man, I love that big seth you know, and you know what you talk about. We've got a ton to talk about, Pat, Patrick. I'm sorry, bro, but. 00:02:33 Speaker 4: We had this whole debate with Pat Pat Mahomes. 00:02:35 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I get stuck with that. 00:02:37 Speaker 1: Now. 00:02:38 Speaker 5: How do you how do you prefer all that you don't? You don't mind as much. Pat. 00:02:41 Speaker 2: I can tell where I am or when I met him in my life if they call me Patrick or Pat, So it's it's just it's good either way. 00:02:49 Speaker 4: What in the fish tank? How should we be referring to you? 00:02:52 Speaker 3: However? You want to? Man? 00:02:54 Speaker 4: Cool? 00:02:54 Speaker 3: My wife called me every name, so they're all good though. 00:02:57 Speaker 5: I'm sure. I'm sure. 00:03:00 Speaker 4: A love I love it. 00:03:01 Speaker 5: Yeah. Before we, you know, get into a lot of stuff we want to talk about, and you're gonna we're gonna dive a little deeper, a little bit but I believe, Big Seth, we have a few things to celebrate today. 00:03:11 Speaker 2: First and foremost, happy birthday. I appreciate that, man. Yeah, I was just I was literally getting a phone call when you said that. Some my phones ringing from people. 00:03:20 Speaker 3: So it's all good, man. I appreciate that. Man, forty one years young, bro flies by, Big Seth. 00:03:30 Speaker 5: I think this is the first time on the fifth Tank, you know, interviewing a guy on their actual birthday. 00:03:36 Speaker 4: Man on the birthday. Yeah, I don't know that that's happened before. 00:03:38 Speaker 3: Hey here we are. 00:03:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like you. 00:03:41 Speaker 3: I'm on the short list. I appreciate that. 00:03:44 Speaker 5: But you know what, Big set that's not all though. Last month we're going to celebrate this too. You were voted as the American Athletic Conference running Backs Coach of the Year for your work with your alma mater. You know, of course the North Texas mean Green. So congratulations on that too, my man. 00:03:59 Speaker 2: Appreciate it, man, I appreciate Coach is fun, man, I have a blast doing it. And yeah, man's it's good to pouring to these young men. 00:04:07 Speaker 5: Yeah. So what did it mean that for you man to receive that honor? That's a hell of an honor. 00:04:11 Speaker 3: Man. 00:04:11 Speaker 2: You know it's you don't think about it. You just coach your tail off and then next thing you look up. 00:04:18 Speaker 3: You know how it is. You look up. 00:04:19 Speaker 2: You got an award and you're grateful for it, but uh, there's other goals and things that you want to do, so you just got to keep marching. 00:04:26 Speaker 1: Man. 00:04:27 Speaker 4: I love that juice. 00:04:28 Speaker 1: Obviously, we always do our due diligence. I reached out to a few people, couldn't reach anybody last night. But then, and it's funny, you just mentioned Lusaka polite pet. So as I was driving into the office getting ready for this thing, he got back to me and he said, you know, it's great that Patrick is a coach now because he liked the clown a little bit in the meetings. He said, back in the day, he had a good time in the meetings, he said, but your football IQ was so high it was like through the roof. And that's kind of the ultimate compliment. 00:04:57 Speaker 4: We see from Afar. 00:04:59 Speaker 1: We see the guys who are fast or shifty, or play bigger than their size and all of those things, like we could see those measurables, but I don't know about your football IQ, right, because I'm not sitting next to you in the meeting talk about how that has helped translate into you being this coach of the year man. 00:05:13 Speaker 2: Like like you said, not the biggest, probably not the fastest, all those all those things, so you got to find some kind of a niche right to stay in that great game, and it's competitive league. 00:05:25 Speaker 3: But diving in the ball, man, it was fun for me. I love being in it. 00:05:28 Speaker 2: I love, you know, just people's ideas and perspective and being in a room with Lusaka and Rick and Ronnie and the whole gang. 00:05:38 Speaker 3: Man, it was. 00:05:38 Speaker 2: It was fun to be around. And Coach Saxson did a heck of a job of teaching US ball and I loved every bit of it, man, just just the diving in part, and then obviously translating that over to the coaching world. And I was fortunate enough to be coached by some of the greatest coaches. 00:05:54 Speaker 3: Man. 00:05:54 Speaker 2: I started as a rookie with with Bill Belichick, and then then I was here with Sabing when he was here, and you know, short stint with Cam but then you know Parcels and Soprano, and then finishing up with Sean Payton. I mean I was blessed to be around some good ball coaches. And my position coach when I was at North Texas was Freddie Kitchens, who end up being an NFL head coach. So I had I had great coaches all the way around me, you know, Darryl Dickey, and so it was. I was fortunate to be around great coaches to learn a lot of good ball, and uh, it was an easy transition for me to start coaching. 00:06:28 Speaker 5: Now fact you say it's an easy transition, but I have to you talk about some of those coaches. There's some old school coaches right there. How does you from this old school way of coaching and learning translate to this new school kids that we're dealing with in today's world. 00:06:45 Speaker 2: Well, one the biggest thing that I learned from all those guys is you got to be consistent. And the only way you can be consistent is to be yourself. And so you got to be yourself every single day, and you can show up the work and be the same guy, pour into them. 00:06:59 Speaker 3: The same way. And I am. I was a clown. You know. 00:07:03 Speaker 2: I knew when to joke around in the meeting rooms and I knew when to turn it on it's the same thing. Like I hang out with our guys, I talk trash to them and like I get them laughing. We stay loose and when it's time to play ball, we play ball. We're locked in. We know what we got going on, and that's. 00:07:17 Speaker 1: What we do talking about playing ball. We just talked about the coach, and we can get into coaching again towards the end of this thing. But you did play a little ball yourself as well, So I'm gonna go all the way back now, Jude, look at this on paper. If you look at Patrick's story, right, I feel like it's a movie we've seen before. So an undersized guy, he's out of a small school in Oklahoma. He breaks all kinds of records, but he's completely overlooked and recruiting, and then he finally gets an offer from a college in Texas. I'm not talking about the Wes Welker story. We already covered that one, right, because Wes Welker kind of had that very similar path. But you did rush for more than twenty three hundred yards at Takumsa High school. You added thirty two rushing touchdowns his senior year, So I know. I love to talk about your stats in Ohio thirty two rushing touchdowns. 00:08:05 Speaker 4: He was getting it done. But then you find. 00:08:07 Speaker 1: Yourself without any offers until North Texas comes calling. What was that journey like for you to have that kind of success. Did you have the perspective that, well, it is at a small school and then to finally have a school like North Texas come in and say, hey, we think you can make things happen here. 00:08:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's it's funny because when I was in high school. Man, I was in high school. I went from football to basketball, to baseball, to powerlift and the track to like, I was just having fun being a kid and enjoying high school. 00:08:36 Speaker 3: After my junior year, after. 00:08:38 Speaker 2: The season my football season in junior started getting you know, a bunch of letters things like that, but really nothing really going. Bunch of small schools started calling and asked me to come on trips and things like that. And I took a couple of trips, played a senior year, and you know, I really there's a lot of teams calling, like Oklahoma State would call, but they've never offered me a scholarship or anything like that. And then North Texas came during basketball season, coach Leftwoich who walked into my gym, asked me to come on a visit. 00:09:10 Speaker 3: Came on a visit. They offered me a scholarship while on the visit and fell in love with Denton Man. 00:09:15 Speaker 2: And then a week before signing day, It'll go to State, offered me a scholarship and I was like, nah, man, y'all waited too long. So stuck with North Texas and enjoyed every bit of it. Man, don't regret it for a secondeah. 00:09:27 Speaker 5: No doubt. Mean, we've heard first hand from Jeff Wilson, what a me and green lessen you are. 00:09:32 Speaker 2: Man, Oh man, come on now, Jeff's the dude. Man, he's writing his own story. The guy runs the ball already does a heck of a job. He's fast, he's man. Jeff had a lot of talent at North Texas. Man, I'm glad he's showing it in the NFL. 00:09:47 Speaker 5: Well, you know, when you were you were obviously dominant. You know at North Texas. You know two thousand and three russ for nearly seventeen hundred yards, you lead the country in rushing yards per game, you know, nineteen touchdowns. And by the time it's all done. You lead the schools and me and Green's all time leading rusher. But when it comes to getting into the next level, you're still kind of fighting that stigma that you know, being at five eight, you know, five eight tailback, aren't you mean they're still not giving you the flowers you deserve, right, No, man, And it's. 00:10:14 Speaker 3: Kind of the same story that I had in high school. 00:10:16 Speaker 2: You know, it's you know, nobody came knocking or beating down this door, had one Division one offer, and kind of the same thing happened in the league. Man, I didn't like the draft came and gone and nothing happened, and literally Canada call offered me a contract on like a Friday. I got the letter in the mail. It's gonna send it back on Monday. And then the Patriots called me Sunday night and asked me to come for a just to try out, just the weekend tryout, like a rookie tryout. And I was like, yeah, sure whatever, and my agent's like, yeah, just go up there and the Canada thing will be here. And I literally was supposed to go on Friday, come back Sunday and get up there. 00:10:58 Speaker 3: Have fun. Man, just running around having a good time, and uh. 00:11:02 Speaker 2: I remember Sunday, I'm sitting in the meeting and I have a two o'clock flight and there's like a three o'clock practice and I'm like, hey, do I need to go to the airport? 00:11:11 Speaker 3: And he's like, you want to go home? Or you want to stay here? I was like, I mean I want to stay here. 00:11:15 Speaker 2: And after practice they came up to me and offered me, gave me a contract and I ended up staying there for the next. 00:11:21 Speaker 3: Three or four months with a with a week's worth of close. So it's pretty. 00:11:26 Speaker 5: Hey, except I'm glad he used mail instead, you know what I mean, instead of you react to that team from Canada. 00:11:32 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it was a FedEx package I was supposed to send back. It's crazy. 00:11:39 Speaker 4: That is hilarious. He's a stale mail So yeah, you just that's uh. 00:11:43 Speaker 1: You're the guy who's knocking on well down here the Dolphins, right Joey and Charlie. 00:11:47 Speaker 4: Hey, cant I get another T shirt? 00:11:48 Speaker 3: Right? 00:11:50 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:11:50 Speaker 3: One week's man? 00:11:52 Speaker 4: I love that And what a what a wild ride? 00:11:54 Speaker 5: Right? 00:11:54 Speaker 4: Because you're there, as you said, for a few months, then they trade you. You lead the team. I think in the pre season you lead them in rushing. 00:12:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they trade you to Pittsburgh, which is interesting in and of itself. A rookie free agent gets traded. You don't see that very often. 00:12:09 Speaker 3: Agent Like, I was like, it was nuts. 00:12:12 Speaker 2: It was a weird time, and Bill was it was awesome. Like you kind of know when you're in the league you got to take somebody's job. It's eventually like that's what you gotta do. You gotta take somebody's job. And I knew they had a bunch of veteran guys there. I mean Corey Dillon in the room, Kevin Falk, who's still one of my all time best friends. Like he's one of those dudes you not talk for like eight months and then you'll talk to him and it's like, yeah, I ain't missed a step, you know what I mean. So Kevin Falk was a big time mentor to me. But I knew that room was packed, you know what I mean. And so Bill called me into his office like I'm sitting around. I'm just everybody you know, getting their playbooks taking walking away. I'm just sitting here like, well, when they gonna come get me? Because and eventually they came and was like, hey, coach wants to talk to you, and I'm like, I need my playbook. They's like, no, you can leave it here, and I'm like, all right, this is kind of weird. So I go up there and Bill's like, man, you did a fantastic job this and that. Loved everything you do. You're the whatever. And then he was like We're going to trade you to Pittsburgh and I'm like, I was like, all right, when am I leaving? 00:13:14 Speaker 3: He's like this evening. 00:13:15 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, well, see you later. I appreciate it, and so went to Pittsburgh for a week. Actually, the Dolphins played the Steelers the first game of the season, and then after the game, Pittsburgh tried to put me on the practice squad and Patriots called back. 00:13:31 Speaker 3: Was bad at me that I wouldn't go to their practice. 00:13:33 Speaker 2: Squad, But I've seen Miami and thought the baby, you know, Nick Saban was recruiting then, so I was like, all right, well here I go. 00:13:40 Speaker 3: I'm going to Miami and the rest is kind of history from then. 00:13:46 Speaker 5: Real quick though, what's crazy to me is that you go from not being drafted and you're a free agent, but then you got you got trade value. 00:13:54 Speaker 3: Right, That's what I'm saying. 00:13:55 Speaker 2: The billy chick way man, he finds a way. I guess I don't know. He's he finds some value out of everybody. No, I was very appreciative to those guys, man, and just the culture and the way they taught me how to be at pro. 00:14:08 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, the Patriots taught me how to be at pro. I had Vrabel was a big. 00:14:12 Speaker 2: Time guy, like on special teams, helping me out, and I mean obviously Kevin Falk in the running back room. 00:14:18 Speaker 3: It was. It was a phenomenal group of men. There was no egos. 00:14:22 Speaker 2: Everybody was trying to help everybody be the best that they could be, and I appreciated that. 00:14:27 Speaker 1: So what I'm curious about is this idea of like Pittsburgh has you. You're interactive for that Dolphins game. They wave you and want to put you on the practice squad, and you you decline. And so then you were saying that New England was mad at you, the idea that here you are you were undrafted. I guess you obviously recognize that that you had some value because of the way things were moving, but you're turning down practice squad opportunities. 00:14:49 Speaker 4: I don't you know, I don't know how often we see that, or maybe that's something that goes on that we're just not exposed to. 00:14:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I when I got cut, I had about six teams call me and try to get me on their practice squad, and the Patriots obviously was one, and the Dolphins were the other. And the Dolphins called me, and the Dolphins was actually said that they were trying to get me into trade. I don't know if this was saving just recruiting or whatever, but they said that, but they wouldn't go. I mean, obviously Bilchick wouldn't go in the division or anything like that. So he did a good job of selling me and literally told me, you come down here, learn the playbook, and you have a chance to get on the active roster. 00:15:25 Speaker 3: And I believed him. 00:15:26 Speaker 2: So I came down to Miami and after about ten or so weeks on the practice squad, he activated me for the last five games. So he stuck to his word. He did what he said he was going to do, and it kind of helped that Ronnie got hurt. 00:15:40 Speaker 3: I mean, but I mean I. 00:15:42 Speaker 2: Ended up getting put on active roster and I was fired up for it, so. 00:15:47 Speaker 5: Six base he was like a kind of like a richer year for you. 00:15:50 Speaker 3: Right, That's exactly what I was. 00:15:53 Speaker 2: Just ripping and running man, just playing as hard as I couldn't practice, just running around, letting Channing crowd to get pissed off that I'm running practice. 00:16:00 Speaker 3: You know, everybody knows Canning and Zach. 00:16:05 Speaker 2: I had Zach saying don't slow down, don't don't do nothing like. So it was what it was, and Zach was actually my my locker buddy. I was actually right in the middle. 00:16:14 Speaker 3: You know. Zach and Jason got two lockers and I had the locker right and there's there, you know, there's ship's piling up and I'm just trying to stay out of the way, you know what I mean. 00:16:24 Speaker 1: They're probably fighting over your lockers. Yeah right, you guys love to compete. They wanted that third locker least a part of it, at. 00:16:32 Speaker 3: Least a part of shoe box in my locker too. Whatever. I didn't say anything. I'm like, yes, sir, yes, sir. 00:16:38 Speaker 5: Bro We had the same problem with Damn Marino. I promise you that Patrick. You know, he had two lockers where we were crammed into all our you know, little spaces. Some people doubled up in lockers, but that dude had too when everybody else is turn. 00:16:51 Speaker 2: I don't know what day it was on, like Mondays, Jason would get all this jordan stuff, so it'd be like boxes of Jordans everywhere, And I wish I was size because I'd have been taking that stuff right fifteen or sixteen shoe and everything like three xs. 00:17:06 Speaker 3: So I was like, man, I can't fit none of that. 00:17:08 Speaker 1: He told me the same thing. I was like, man, can you hook your boy up? Can I get a pair of Jordan's? And he's like, well, if you were a fourteen. 00:17:14 Speaker 4: I take rore a lot. Yeah. 00:17:19 Speaker 5: So we talked about those six being you know, pretty much rich O. Seven is absolute dumpster fire for you know, for the entire team. 00:17:26 Speaker 3: It's a long season, man, yeah, yeah. 00:17:28 Speaker 5: Yeah, But then you know what, two thousand and eight rolls around and you're in the running back room again. We got Ronnie and Ricky talk about that experience, man, being the running back room with those guys. You talk about the guys in New England, those great guys in New England. Talk about these guys that you ran into while you were in Miami there. 00:17:42 Speaker 2: Man, I just like just to take it back to when I got to Miami. I mean, Ronnie was phenomenal. 00:17:50 Speaker 5: I mean he was. 00:17:51 Speaker 3: He's still one of my best friends. 00:17:52 Speaker 2: Like I talked to Ronnie all the time, just singing at the Coaches convention. Ronnie's phenomenal and more like friend friend, Like we just we hung out all the time. We're a close knit group. And then you O seven. When Ricky came back, it was crazy, man, Like obviously we were terrible, Like we're a terrible football team. Ricky comes back and like I described Ricky as that, like you know that dog has been locked up in the backyard for like thirty years. 00:18:21 Speaker 3: I like, the fence is finally open and it takes off and you cannot catch it. It's just all over the place. 00:18:26 Speaker 2: When Ricky hit the practice field, that's why I that's how I described him. Like he'd get the ball and run all the way to the goal line, come back, do it again. I'm like, this guy's like he's never played football before, so then he's so excited to be here. 00:18:38 Speaker 3: And then he goes in the first game and then tears his peck. I'm like, bro did all that work and now you. 00:18:43 Speaker 2: But no, those two dudes phenomenal, phenomenal human beings. Man, I had a blast. And then Sammy Morris was there, man, and he was phenomenal. Bro Like I tell you, Like, those guys were awesome when I was there as a rookie and O six, but then on eight, like it was the most part I'd ever had because obviously the Wildcat started was getting to do all this great stuff, getting to play a lot us three on the field at the same time, and it was I mean, the Wildcat was fun, the offense was fun, the coaching staff was awesomeh eight was just a blash man. 00:19:16 Speaker 3: That was my all time favorite time playing football. 00:19:19 Speaker 5: You know what Pao asked you about, you just said this about. I forgot about Sammy as well. When you think about the personality just talked about, everybody seems to be pretty quiet. Ronnie, Ricky, Sammy, were you the one that actually brought some life to that that room because everybody they're pretty quiet in there. Man. I was in six. 00:19:36 Speaker 3: I ain't say nothing. I ain't say nothing. I was like just I was just in the room, like just soaking it all. 00:19:43 Speaker 1: In. 00:19:43 Speaker 3: Like seven, I started learning a little more than eight. 00:19:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just fun man like, but everybody's I mean, Ronnie wasn't as quiet as you think he is, Like gonna talk now, is gonna talk? We had some characters. Ricky was gonna try to slide the joke in every once in a while. 00:19:59 Speaker 3: But we had fun. 00:20:00 Speaker 2: It was a good time when we got there, Like we was probably all quiet outside of the room, but when we got in that running back room, it was nobody was safe. 00:20:09 Speaker 4: I believe that. 00:20:10 Speaker 1: Well, you just mentioned Wildcat, and we can't talk two thousand and eight without talking about the Wildcat. 00:20:17 Speaker 4: Ricky and Ronnie. Everybody knows what they did. 00:20:19 Speaker 1: Certainly Ronnie right, he's associate'll be he'll be synonymous with the Wildcat forever that first game against the Patriots. But we've heard from them, We've heard their perspective, they've each of us, each of them has shared with us kind of what their experience was like. From the moment that David Lee walked into the room and said, hey, who can take a snap from center? Who can do all these things? You're the third back there, and I don't say that with any you know, you hear third teams. Ricky Ricky Williams, Ronnie Brown, and then Patrick Cobbs like that's that's a pretty cool position to be in, especially with that style of an offense. It's going to require all of the backs to get involved. And each of those guys in Lusaka as well, when they were here, they were like, don't forget about Patrick Cobbs and his role in the wild in the Wildcat. Can you kind of walk us through, especially now being a coach. Do you remember sitting in that room and here comes a coach and like, hey, we got to figure something out and let's let's do it. Let's put it up on the board and let's create this thing. Can you kind of walk us through what your memory was like of that experience? 00:21:20 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean when David Lee came in said a couple of things. We had wrapped it maybe a couple of times in camp. But I remember being on the flight on the way back from Arizona. 00:21:30 Speaker 3: We just just lost. 00:21:32 Speaker 2: We were oh two, and Sperano came walking down the aisle and he was like, and we won't do this wildcat thing next week. We're just kind of like, yeah, okay, whatever, Like he ain't gonna we ain't about to do it, and then sure enough and that we can practice. 00:21:44 Speaker 3: We practiced it, and then uh, but we needed we needed something. 00:21:48 Speaker 2: We needed a spark, like you said, we went one in fifteen the year before or whatever it was, and then you know, we started out h and two. 00:21:55 Speaker 3: So something had to happen. 00:21:57 Speaker 2: And so he came down the aisle and said, we're all three sitting in the roads kind of together, and he's like, we wanna do this wildcat thing. 00:22:04 Speaker 3: We got to get you all on the field at the same time. And we're like, all right. So, like I said, we practiced that week, and sure enough he called it in New England. And I've never seen Bill so caught off guard and the defense so caught off guard. Because the crazy part. 00:22:19 Speaker 2: Is I knew all those guys, man, I knew Rodney. Rodney still a good friend of mine. But I'm sitting here blocking Rodney. 00:22:24 Speaker 5: He's so mad. 00:22:25 Speaker 2: I'm laughing, He's PiZZ like it's just crazy. I mean, rabelsiz, like it's just it is hilarious. Like we were just running the ball up and down the field. And Ronnie obviously is a phenomenal athlete and did a heck of job doing it and obviously Ricky on the speed sweep, I was just out blocking originally and having a good time doing it. 00:22:46 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:22:46 Speaker 5: Man, that I'm gonna tell you what. We lost our mind when you guys unleased that thing. Man, that was that was I couldn't believe how well and you said that, you know, it was at least early enough where you think that Bill Belichick will make an adjustment, but he couldn't even make an adjustment to this. 00:23:01 Speaker 2: It was yeah, man, you know what me being a coach now, eleven on eleven football is hard when when the quarterback is the running back and he could throw. 00:23:09 Speaker 3: I mean, that's why defending. 00:23:11 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is hard, Like eleven on eleven football is hard because you really don't have an extra defender, Like somebody's got to look out. 00:23:18 Speaker 3: For all eleven people. So it's a tough. 00:23:21 Speaker 2: It's tough when all eleven guys can run the ball, and so you got to have a plan. And then you know, Ronnie threw a touchdown passing that game to Sono too, so it wasn't like they could just load the box. It was you know, you catch somebody off guard like that, Like I said, eleven on eleven. Football is hard. You got to figure out some way to stop it. 00:23:38 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good stuff. Man. Obviously, walcat was released against unleased against your your first team, which which the Patriots. 00:23:44 Speaker 3: I was. I was happy to beat them, happy to be I was through and through. 00:23:50 Speaker 4: Man, that's so cool. 00:23:52 Speaker 5: But you know, pat you're Your big moment really came a few weeks later at the Lyon Stadium in Houston. You know, you had no carriage today, you had three receptions, but you rack up one hundred and thirty eight yards er season, you know on those three grabs and score two touchdowns, two crazy touchdowns. What happened that day? What was going on that day? 00:24:11 Speaker 3: Man? 00:24:11 Speaker 2: It was it was nuts. Like the first one from the wildcat, we did the wildcat pass called the cross country and uh caught a touchdown pass for a long one. 00:24:21 Speaker 3: And then the next one was just a screen pass. Man. We started out and I remember coming to the huddle and it was me and riding in the backfield. 00:24:28 Speaker 2: I came in motion and then Ronnie was like, we're gonna fake the screen to Ronnie and then throw it back to me. And I just remember Ryne said this, man, go score this thing. And I'm thinking eighty okay whatever, and sure. 00:24:40 Speaker 4: I was ready to go off. 00:24:42 Speaker 3: It went eighty yards. 00:24:43 Speaker 2: Of the hours, I was like, ah, all right, I was, I mean, I wasn't expecting it, but the thing worked out perfect. 00:24:48 Speaker 3: It was awesome. 00:24:49 Speaker 1: Now did you say that first? So that played the reverse. I guess Ronnie was in the shotgun and then he runs out and gets it to. 00:24:57 Speaker 3: The wildcat cross country the wildcat. 00:25:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Wildcat ones called cross country and he actually takes the snap, hands it to Ricky. Ricky tossed it to Chad Pennington, and Pennington threw it to me across the field. 00:25:11 Speaker 3: So yeah, the play called was cross country. I love that wild cross country. 00:25:16 Speaker 2: And so we ran it and threw a touchdown and then uh, later on in the game, we just threw just a regular screen two back screen and it went eighty and so yeah, man, two. 00:25:27 Speaker 3: Plays fifty seven and eighty yards, rack up some yards real fast. 00:25:31 Speaker 5: That I'll get it done. 00:25:32 Speaker 1: Where you lined up in the cross country because I could did YouTube. I watched it on YouTube jews preparing for this, and that camera person was lost. I didn't have the all twenty two looks, so that like you didn't even see Cobs until nobody saw. 00:25:43 Speaker 4: Common right right you lined up pre snap. 00:25:45 Speaker 2: I was in the slot, so I was to the right in the slot, Chad was, Pennington was was out wide, and Ricky was coming in motion, and uh so I faked stock blocked and then took off. 00:25:58 Speaker 3: You had to run a cross country cross country and I'm so wide open. It's like, you know, the just waiting on the ball come back like a punt. I'm like, come on, marn you. 00:26:08 Speaker 5: Said those are the hardest to catch, where you're the absolute hardest to sit there and wait for that thing to get there. 00:26:13 Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, I was trying to catch it get to the zone for sure. 00:26:16 Speaker 4: Well you did. You did, yet all the time in the world to do it too. It's so cool. 00:26:21 Speaker 1: So everything I've ever read or heard about you was that you were the ultimate team player, even as you know, you were a star at North Texas. But I went back and watched a video and they talked about how you were on the punt team, not as a returner, but you were blocking for the punt returner. So everything you did you were a team guy. But it was Greg Camio who came on this show and he shared a story with us that said, this is truly a foxhole guy. If there's anybody you want in your corner, it's Pat Cobbs. And what's really crazy is the moment he talked about was actually at an OJ McDuffie charity event, the Grand Goal. 00:26:57 Speaker 4: One of my favorite moments of all time. 00:26:59 Speaker 5: So what was that? 00:27:00 Speaker 4: Was Camillo dressed as pee wee Herman that year? 00:27:03 Speaker 3: Was that he was? 00:27:05 Speaker 4: Man? 00:27:05 Speaker 2: Yes, OJ had some some killer parties, bron Now, yeah, it's a Halloween party. 00:27:11 Speaker 3: It was. It was a good time, man. Uh yeah, I had to pull my guy away man about to make it. 00:27:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, he shared it with us on the show, so don't worry about But yes, he did say that he might have made a decision that he would have regretted. 00:27:26 Speaker 4: But he said, that's when I knew Patrick Cobbs had my back. What were you dressed as that night? What were you? What was yours? 00:27:33 Speaker 3: Man? I don't even remember, man, I was. I don't know, Man, I have no idea pee wee Herman. I can tell you. 00:27:41 Speaker 2: Too. 00:27:42 Speaker 1: He was like, he said that he would hear that all the time, you look like pee wee Herman. So he leaned into it. 00:27:48 Speaker 4: He absolutely killed that costume scula. 00:27:51 Speaker 1: But he said, you know that wasn't There were a lot of escapades between the two of you guys that you guys definitely got out and kicked it a lot. And he said there was one time at some little dive bar here off of five ninety five juice that you guys also had to save. There was some poor sap at the bar that was drowning himself in his sorrows, and you guys kind of cheered him up and lifted him up. And so it seems like, you know, you were out having a good time, but you were also out there looking out for people. 00:28:20 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, it's not too hard to look out for somebody and do something for somebody. 00:28:25 Speaker 3: Man, it doesn't take much. Man. A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle. 00:28:29 Speaker 5: Man. 00:28:30 Speaker 2: So it's a good time. Like I like being around people. I enjoyed people's time. And I don't know, man, it's just I don't see no wrong in trying to do right, you know what I mean. 00:28:41 Speaker 5: That's just I like that big thing you got a title there, big seth. 00:28:44 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Greg's a good dude, man, he's good people too. 00:28:48 Speaker 3: I definitely want that guy in my foxhole for sure. 00:28:50 Speaker 5: I love that. In fact, you know we mentioned the top of the show. You know, since twenty nineteen, you've been the running backs coach in North Texas. So we heard this amazing statement you made recent we talked about going through the interview process back in twenty nineteen, you said, I love this university more than I want this job. You know, talk about how meaningful it is for you to be coaching these young men who are going through exactly what you went through back a few years ago. Yeah. 00:29:16 Speaker 2: Man, it's you know, when you're doing something for your arma mater or something, it just means a little more, you know what I mean. Like this North Texas did so much for me growing up, Like it was I turned up, became a man, found my wife here, Like North Texas is a big, big part of my life. And so having the opportunity to come back and coach, and I told Coach Latrell, I'm like, listen, I do I love this university more than I want this job. Like, if you don't think that I'm the right person for the job, don't hire me. I want whoever you hire in this position to be the best person for the job, because I want him to do a phenomenal job. Now, did I think that I wasn't capable of doing it? Absolutely not, or I wouldn't been there for the interview, but I didn't know who else he was interviewing. So if he had somebody else better, then hey, let's go get I'm no hard feelings, like I want the best for everything. So and that's just my competitive nature, man, Like I want to compete too, Like so when I should do show up, I want to be the best coach on the staff, like I want to be the best. 00:30:14 Speaker 3: Just kind of goes back to my playing days. Man. 00:30:15 Speaker 2: I was just scratching and clawing and trying to do everything I could to be a guy that was a good coach or good player. And now doing the same thing as a coach, Like I'm trying to learn ball, like constantly talking to people, trying to pick up tips from other people and ways to reach kids, Like you can learn it from everyone real. 00:30:34 Speaker 5: Quick, real quick. You're running backs, coach. Now where do you want to go in this coaching too? How far do you want to go in coaching? What do you want to what do you what are you striving to be as a as a coach in football. 00:30:43 Speaker 2: Man, Obviously, I want to grow as a I would love to be a head coach one day, I really would. Obviously, I'd like to do it at the highest level, like going to the NFL would be my next step. I would love to get to the NFL and coach. I've done a couple couple coaching things in the NFL and I know that I could do that job and it would be phenomenal to do it. Had an interview or two in the NFL, did not take or did not get the job. So now I think I'm ready, man Like, after being around football in the NFL and listening to those coaches and you know, being at camps for a week, I think I'm ready for the next step. But right now, my feet are where they are and I'm coaching ball at North Texas, And when that opportunity comes, it'll come, and if it's the right situation, I'll take it. If not, then I'll be right here at North Texas as long as they'll have me, man, as long as I keep producing and they don't get tired of me. 00:31:32 Speaker 1: How do you get tired of the coach of the year in the conference, right, like you can't get tired of that guy. 00:31:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, year, every year's the new year. 00:31:39 Speaker 1: Man. 00:31:39 Speaker 2: You know this is true, O, carry over, We've got to continue to grind. This is very true every day the interview. 00:31:46 Speaker 4: You know, right, absolutely right? 00:31:48 Speaker 1: So all right, Well, he talked about your role in this offense, particularly in the wildcat offense. Every episode of the Fish Tank ends with our two minute drill. We know that you've been involved in in too. You know, anybody who can catch two passes to go eighty for one and fifty three for the other. See that guy on the field during a two minute drill? So yeah, who better to have in our backfield during the Fish Tank two minute drills? So we're gonna put kind of an imaginary two minutes up in the clock, and we're gonna ask you some quick hitting, fun questions. You just answer them as you see fit. You're a coach, So if you think you need a timeout or something, you go ahead. You've got a time out if you need it, and we'll see if we can get through this thing and score to put some points tonight. 00:32:29 Speaker 5: Ready to go? 00:32:29 Speaker 3: Perfect? 00:32:30 Speaker 5: All right? All right? 00:32:31 Speaker 3: Great, let me do all right? 00:32:33 Speaker 5: We mentioned today as your birthday. You shared his birthday with some pretty famous people Jackie Robinson, Nolan Ryan, the Jaguars head coach, Douc Peterson, even justin Timberlake. What is your favorite justin Timberlake song? 00:32:47 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I'm sure I know some I'm not gonna say, uh. 00:32:55 Speaker 5: You just hit me with this straight but minus rock your by. You know that's my rock, your body. You know that's me though, But that's just meat, that's just that justified that just fight out. 00:33:05 Speaker 3: Love j T, don't j T. 00:33:08 Speaker 4: I love j T, But Blank, I gotta think back to you and all right, we'll keep it moving. We'll keep it moving. Okay. 00:33:18 Speaker 1: You not only played football to come to high but you ran track and as you mentioned, you were even into powerlifting. 00:33:24 Speaker 4: What was your best event in powerlifting? 00:33:26 Speaker 2: Squat and deadlift were my two best. Bench was just the show. It was a show thing. But you you know you squatting deadlift for the dose, you know what I mean? So deadlift those were my two ones. Man, those were the money makers for sure. 00:33:40 Speaker 4: What was your squa was Patrick Cobbs squatting in high. 00:33:43 Speaker 3: School and high school. 00:33:44 Speaker 2: I think my best squad at a meet was like five fifty, yeah, and I deadlifted six hundred. 00:33:50 Speaker 3: He powerful, Yeah, that's actually moving. It was actually like a two time state champ or something like a two time national. 00:34:02 Speaker 4: Believe those numbers. 00:34:03 Speaker 5: So we talked a little bit about Patrick or Pat early and the you know in the in this recording, but your that's really your middle name is Patrick and Stanley is your first name. Why don't you go let me tell you. My first name is Otis and I go by oj so and I understand why I don't like you know me? Why why do you go? You know, why don't you go by Stanley? 00:34:23 Speaker 4: Which? 00:34:23 Speaker 5: And who's the coolest Stanley? 00:34:24 Speaker 3: You know? 00:34:25 Speaker 2: Oh man, Well, my dad's name is Stanley, and so they just started calling me Patrick. But I'm not a junior, so we have different middle names. His first name is Stanley, My first name is Stanley. We have different middle names. His middle name is Ed. He hated Ed, so he did not name me Ed. And Patrick came and so everybody just calls for Patrick, and I've just grown up being called Patrick. 00:34:46 Speaker 3: And uh, Stanley. I don't know. Close one maybe the power tool or something. I don't know. 00:34:55 Speaker 4: They'll get it done. I thought it was gonna say, pops, but it's hard to be. That's a good one. 00:35:00 Speaker 5: Like it all right? 00:35:00 Speaker 4: Last question. 00:35:01 Speaker 1: Here, we're lining up in the wildcat for this final play of the two minute drill. Chad's lined up wide. Ronnie's undershotgun there right, Ricky, is it coming in motion? 00:35:10 Speaker 4: You're in the slot. Who's going to score to bring this thing home? 00:35:14 Speaker 3: Oh? Man? Where we at on the field? 00:35:17 Speaker 4: You tell me what's the coach mode? Okay? 00:35:22 Speaker 3: I mean selfishly? Could we could? He comes to most and you can give me the reverse. I might take it to the house, That's what I'm talking about. 00:35:29 Speaker 2: Or you get headed to Ricky, I'll block it up, and or Roddy and we'll block it up and we'll get it done. I mean, but hey, I ain't mad. If you give me the ball, I try to I'll try to do it myself. 00:35:40 Speaker 4: I think I'm calling a cross country for this. 00:35:45 Speaker 5: That big set. 00:35:48 Speaker 1: There it is, Well, that's the two minute drill. Cross country brings it home? He is Patrick Cobbs, Now, coach Patrick Cobbs. I appreciate you doing this. I didn't know when we were going through the schedule last week. We were kind to going back and forth you so, and I said, what about Wednesday, said yeah, we could do that. That was before I realized it was your birthday and you still answered the call. So big ups to you for doing that. 00:36:09 Speaker 3: Man. 00:36:09 Speaker 2: Nah, I appreciate you guys having me on man even sweeter birthday now, Man, I appreciate it. 00:36:13 Speaker 5: Oh Man, We're glad we'll be a part of it. Man, Thanks for diving in. 00:36:16 Speaker 3: Patrick, Absolutely, you're now. 00:36:20 Speaker 4: Diving just like Jew said. 00:36:24 Speaker 1: Thanks for diving into the fish Tank presented by iHeartRadio. Be sure to follow us on whatever streaming platform you're using, and don't be afraid to rate the show or leave us a comment. We love your feedback, and remember you can find us, as well as Drive Time with Travis Wingfield and all of our international partners on Miami Dolphins dot com