Scott Stone: Five Decades of Dolphins

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Speaker 1: You're now diving.

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Speaker 2: Who sitting down with Seth living o Jay And this is strictly but.

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Speaker 3: I'm a true number one of course, y'all, just and all the neversports talk that might be that.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Fish Tank, presented by iHeartRadio. Right here on the Mimy Dolphins Podcast Network, Seth Lovitt and the toughest podcaster De Marino ever played with OJ McDuffie juice. How you feeling today, man.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling great, big Seth. For for a number of reasons. First of all, you know, anytime we get a chance to record, I always love it. But man, today's guest, Seth. People are gonna love today's guests because this man right here has meant so much the Dolphin organization, and I want to make sure today he gets his flowers right here on the fish tank.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's gonna get flowers and so mother stuff. I don't know what he's gonna be dishing out either, but we're we're excited to find out. Scott Stone dives into the tank. They said it couldn't happen, but here you are, Scott. Welcome to the Fish Tank man, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Man, I've come full circle I'll never forget. I'm always early on on Shoela time, and I'm sitting in the parking lot at Miami Subs waiting for a friend of mine to join me for lunch. I get a call from Seth saying I got this idea. I want to do this podcast. I'm thinking about doing it with O J McDuffie, and it'll be part of this whole network. And at this point, podcasts weren't that big, and I'm like, Okay, cool, who's gonna host it? He goes, I am. I go wait a minute. In my head, I'm going, this is one of my closest friends in the world. How do I tell him this is the most screwed up idea I've ever ever heard? And I'm listening to him going yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, Jesus is good. He goes, yeah, but I'm gonna host it. I go, okay, yeah, Jus will do really get on this show? And I don't know how to tell him this. So it just comes full circle that from not believing in this thing, or at least one of you, to now being on the show.

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Speaker 5: Crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, hopefully you're not here to tell me that it hasn't worked and that you were right from the region.

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Speaker 4: I will admit one of the few times I was wrong, it was one of them because we went from that meeting at dunkin Donuts where we was trying to plan the whole thing. We got a whiteboard and we frigured out equipment and then you guys went on your own and became successes because I had to stay with the Dolphins. But it's great to finally join you one hundred or so episodes later, because it's been a long time coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Man, that's what's crazy said, is that you know the fact that we weren't with the Dolphins, the reason we couldn't work with Scott, and then now we are with the Dolphins. Now we're not not working with Scott, but you know, imagine like what an asset you know, for us, if Scott was working, you know, alongside of his tank.

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Speaker 1: But that's a different story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're going to talk about it. But Scott, from behind the scenes, he's been an asset. Whether he's gotten the credit or not, that's for sure. On that note, let's get this thing rolland thank you for that. So look, I think the perfect place to start the show is right here in this digital space. And what I mean by that, Scott, is that people who are listening to this episode, they're either going to learn about you for the first time, but then there's the people that are gonna be like, holy shit, Scott Stone is on the fish tag, I can't wait for this. And I think that the majority of people that are going to have that reaction are Dolphin super fans who are also content creators. And the reason they're going to react that way is because of something that was called web Weekend. So can you talk to us about what web Weekend was, how it all came about, and then how you feel it might have had an impact on really the way digital content has surrounded this franchise for a long period of time and quite frankly to this day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a conversation myself and then our team president Bran weadmire many many years ago about fan sites and they were just starting to blogs and those things were just starting to get started, and we realized that the only thing we ever had in common with those people, the interaction we had with them was setting cease into sistle. Don't use our logo, don't use this Fogo all of that stuff, and it was like, it doesn't make sense. So I reached out to like five or six of the most popular ones and we brought them in for a thing called Web Weekend. And to be honest with you, the majority of them thought this was going to be like a sting operation where we bring them into the Dolphin thing, we lock them up in the handcuffs, we throw them in the moat, and they've never heard from again. But it wasn't that. It was the opportunity for them to meet the organization, meet the people that are talking about, understand what the rules were. And it ended up lasting for over ten years and it was a really great weekend where you know, every single year, the head coach would come down and talk to him, the droll manager would come down and talk to him. Jones or Brian Weidmeyer, Wayne Heysenga showed up a few times and it was just a great exchange.

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Speaker 5: So they understood where we were.

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Speaker 4: Coming from and what our needs were, and we understood what their needs were. Because as popular as I thought dolphins dot Com was, these fan sites reached people we never would ye and had to reach, and an opinion base that we would never be able to do on our own, So to get them on our side was to me a smart move. And it's grown where weekend became, where we allow allowed later on fan sites to be in the press box and cover games and come to press conferences and ask questions of the.

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Speaker 5: Coach in the postgame locker room.

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Speaker 4: And it really really grew, and now to the point where the White House under President Trump had bloggers as part of the White House core. So I'm not going to say we were responsible for that, but we certainly helped open the door for giving those people a voice in official settings.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's recognizing the value, right, the recognizing the value of content creators and real people who are out there and are so passionate. I remember you saying that to me. We were like, these are our most passionate fans. Where they are, they've essentially created a second, non paying job, the majority of them dedicated to our organization, and we're just in a fistfight with them, like you know every day. And so is there a middle ground? And I thought that that was groundbreaking, no pun intended there, But when you talk about allowing fans into the press box, that still happens to this day. There's guys that will text me, you know, whether it's Dolphins Talk or Sarny, and hey, I'm going to be covering this game or whatever it might be, and they're credentialed, and you know, Ann Nolan has continued that tradition on and maybe it's shifted to the way it looks, and of course the scope of everything has changed with social media and so on and so forth, but there's elements of that that still exist to this day. And if I'm not wrong, correct me if I'm wrong here, I know you'll have no issue doing that. But the podcast voice, like we're part of the podcast network, but the anchor, the tentpole voice of the podcast network is Travis Wingfield, who does a brilliant job and he's a full time employee of the Dolphins. I feel like his first kind of step into becoming more official was through those web weekend opportunities. Is that accurate?

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Speaker 4: No question? It was through the press box opportunities that we had later on. But yeah, he came down and people have been listening to his podcast, and people like Jason Jenkins and Tom Garfinkle really liked it, and it was weird because after the game he does his first game and all of a sudden he's being asked to go do Tom sweet And I've never been to thomsonee. I'm working thirty years and I'm like, I've never been in there. So I scored him in there. And there's Dan Marino in one corner, there's Nat Moore in another, there's Tom and Jason and he's the glad handing him like the Sajors come into the building or something like that, and I'm like, what have I missed? But yeah, he joined the team through one of our web reach out programs and it's an amazing job. Really the probably by far the best podcast host you guys have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Man, Big Sen. I love this man, I really do.

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Speaker 3: And you know, especially when you talk about Travis, you know, we talk about some other people. I mean, we still interact with these guys, you know a lot of these people. But I have to imagine that when you started this whole, you know, your career with the Miami Dolphins, that the Internet and what's going on the Internet was the last thing on your mind.

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Speaker 1: I Mean there was no Internet right exactly.

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Speaker 3: Seth and I were trying to do something like a few years later when it kind of started right big seth with the internet. We're doing a Tuesday thing where we're kind of like talking to the fans of chats and stuff like that. But the way it's the way it's at right now. Man, it's like, you know, it's just kind of crazy. But anyhow, look, I want you to take us all the way back, I mean all the way back to the beginning of your Dolphins you know journey.

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Speaker 1: I want to know how you got your out with the team.

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Speaker 3: And then of course one of the all time stories our man and we'll probably reference him a lot, and so our man Harvey Green told us about how George Steinbern hild him hot seage and that had to have an effect on your start as well.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go back further than that, go back to nineteen seventy nine. We went to a Fault Laudelle Strikers game, and that was the old soccer team in the North American Soccer League that was down here. Fell in love with the sport. I was thirteen years old, my younger brother was eleven. We decided we want to work in sports. This is Thank god there was no child labor laws back then, because the world was a lot different. But my dad called the Strikers and I got these two sons are really giant fans. They want to do anything, the clean toilets. So what we do is every Saturday we came into the Striker office and we did newspaper clippings at thirteen. Then yeah, comey, full circle, how about.

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Speaker 2: That doing clips at thirteen.

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Speaker 4: At thirteen and this is when it was really newspapers. I mean there was a fall loud down news in the sunset. I know. They were two separate papers, The Miami Herald the Miami News were two separate there were two Palm Beach papers. So they would have these stacks of newspapers and we would clip them out, all the Striker stories and put them in these binders. And we did that for a lot, for a year or so, and then all of a sudden, the pr director, the guy by named of Steve Hunger, said you guys want to work game day. We're like yeah.

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Speaker 5: So we were press box runners at.

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Speaker 4: Fourteen and ezy, the press box would get all fogged up from the condensation.

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Speaker 5: We go out there with a squeegee and the spot.

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Speaker 4: We'd run back and forth things, and then Steve Hunger left and the guy named Chip Namius came in and Chip worked there for two or three years. We worked under Chip, and then Chip got the job with the Dolphins as their PR guy and said, you guys want to work for the Dolphins. I'm gonna be honest with you. I grew up a Yankees fan, and I grew up a Strikers fan. I did not know who the Dolphins were. We were not football fans in our family. So we're like, okay, yeah, that's cool. I think I'm going to a minor league thing. I don't know what I'm going in the North American Soccer League for the NFL, I mean whatever. So we ended up doing that. We couldn't drive. My mom and dad would drive us down to the Orange Bowl on game day, wait in Little Havan and all that area, and come back after the game, pick us up and take us home.

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Speaker 2: How old were you.

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Speaker 4: Fifteen at this point. I started in nineteen eighty three, the same year Marinos started, unbelievable, so we were fifteen years old. I wore a sixty six, so whatever that number is. We were driving back and forth couldn't drive, and did that for a number of years, and then Chip left and Eddie White took over, and I got into a really good relationship with Eddie was able to develop more opportunities. I came in the office. I always had a head for stats. He let me do the last stuff for the media guy. Next thing I know, I'm his intern. And then I leave there after my internship to get a drive of the University of Florida, and Eddie and Jeff leave and they hire named Harvey Green. That's where we're gonna get to the Harvey Yankee store. So I come down and interview. But Harvey's still an employee of the Yankees and they don't want him doing any Dolphin business. He was with the Yankees, and back then he was that little Yankee stadium in Fort Laradelle. I had this trailer outside, which is where his office was. So I have to I'm gonna do an interview. But Harvey said, you can't look like I'm doing an interview. So I came from my interview. You have to be a high school kid who's doing an interview on me for your high school paper.

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Speaker 5: I'm like.

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Speaker 4: Every angle, So I come there and jeans and a T shirt and I'm interviewing for this job and I think it went okay. I leave. I go back to Florida and the month goes by and I'm like, I don't hear anything. So I called Eddie White, my old boss, said, look, can you find out from Harvey what's going on with this job? They want me to commit to Florida for longer, and I don't know what to do. So he calls up.

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Speaker 5: Harvey.

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Speaker 4: I'm go'na never forget is I'm laying on the couch calling me back and says, yeah, you offered you this job for the guy in Buffalo.

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Speaker 5: I go, ah, come on, but he may not take it, you never know.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, who's not gonna want to leave Buffalo come to Miami. This is before Jim Kelly and this is when Buffalo it's Buffalo. And I'm like, I don't got this thing. I don't got this thing.

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Speaker 1: So I hang up.

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Speaker 4: At fifteen minutes there, Harvey calls me and offers me the job because I guess the guy it wasn't enough money. And the guy that went to relocate for twelve thousand, five hundred dollars a year, which is the salary exactly. Well, he's thinking he's probably got four runner up rings or what have you. But so, yeah, so I took it and came home and moved back to my house, in my family's house, and come to the Dolphins and Harvey's not there. And this is in late March. The draft is in April, and Harvey's still not there. Steinberg is not letting him go. This this giant phone war between Steinbernner and Joe Robbie, and Joe Robbie says, Steinberg says, if you ever want baseball on South Florida, you're not gonna You're not gonna hire Harvey Green away from me. So Harvey's like holding up baseball potential to Marrowlins if they don't come up with an agreement. But meanwhile, I'm stuck there by myself. And draft day comes up and it's just me and our secretary Gale, but's primarily me working with Coachula on the nineteen eighty nine draft where we have a ninth pick of the draft. We picked Sammy Smith. We trade up, we take Lewis Oliver, and I'm doing this as twenty three year old kid working with Coachula giving it pr advice when just a month ago I was putting a Newslayer together at the University of Florida.

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Speaker 5: So that's how that's how it started.

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Speaker 4: It started with child Labor Laws, clips and George Steinbrenner.

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Speaker 2: But that might be the title of this podcast, right, child Labor loss clips and George Steinbrenner. Well, I'm actually surprised it took us this long to get to Harvey, but I am very glad that we are here now. So there's another thing that Harvey said on our show in addition to that great Steinbrender story, and that was that there was kind of a fraternity of former Yankee PR guys who bonded. I think he used the term as like we were a group of POW survivors, you know, but just because of the Steinbrenner experience, and every time he says that line, it makes me laugh. Even just saying it again makes me laugh. But then I started to think about it, and the truth of the matter is there's another group of POW survivors that worked for Harvey Green, and so we probably should start having some support meetings of our own, and I guess we do. With phone calls here and there. So I just Scott and I could start our own podcast just on Harvey Green stories, and I think it would. I think it would be better than he even thought the fish Tank would be. But in the interest of timing, we'll focus on like one or two stories. I know which one is my favorite. My favorite Harvey Green Scott Stone story had to do with some fast food. But is there a story that you can show that you can share on this podcast.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, first off, let me go back and say, you guys had it easy with Harvey. I had post George Steinbrenner marriage Harvey, so I have.

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Speaker 2: Pre marriage, but I did have pre marriage Harvey of the transition stage. But it's Oj gets this all the time when he talks to the guys from the eighties and the seventies about Shula. Well, you played for coach Shula. He didn't really play for Coach Sula.

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Speaker 4: It's like it's like when when guy that loved the guy, but when Jimmy Johnson came to the Dolphins was a different Jimmy Johnson. The Dallas guys know you had a different Harvey Green than I knew. But no, so Harvey, we always go out to lunch every day because you want to get out of the stadium. That's where our offices were at the time, and Harvey always gave us the same lunch order. Didn't matter where we were going. We had to go to Wendy's. We had to get two singles, catch Up only and a Biggie Fry. And he made us wait at the window to open up both of the burgers and make sure it was perfect, because if it was, we're gonna pay the price. So we're at this Wendy's in Opa Laca, right near the stadium, and we get the order and.

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Speaker 5: We open it.

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Speaker 4: We open and some guy's hunking behind us, like you won't believe we're like. Craig is like, we gotta go where I was doing. Craig hyleg I checked the burger. He goes, no, no, we gotta go.

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Speaker 2: This guy's gonna kill us.

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Speaker 4: So we drive back to the stadium. I bring him his lunch and go, how can I how bad can they screw up? Two singles, catch Up Only, a Biggie Fries. He opens up the first one. There's there's mustard on it, there's pickles on it, there's lettuce on it. I'm going he takes the burger throws it against the wall. If you guys are fans of the prices, right, and remember the game Plinko sliding down the wall. This is right by Craig's head slides down the wall and he goes, can't you guys get anything fucking right? And all this we're getting ripped over poor guys making sandwiches at Wendy's. And believe me, we never ever, ever, I don't care who's hunking behind me, we check.

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Speaker 1: That said, Hell the hell would our lives. We're just going to make sure of these burgers are right. For Harvey. This this there will never be anything but ketch up on that burger.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, have you ever or there in their instances or they did get it wrong and you caught it and you said, hell no, take this back right once once okay.

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Speaker 5: Once we had to go back in the store. It was crazy.

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Speaker 4: But yes, you don't understands for Harvey. Oh it's for Harvey Green. Okay, I get it, but no, it was it was crazy.

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Speaker 1: That's too good. You know, Hell, I didn't realize Harvey is that tough, big sir?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I really, I mean you talked about it, but damn the burger means, hell, man.

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Speaker 5: You got Harvey light light light because you treated the players a lot different.

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Speaker 2: They treated it right, all right, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: And you got you got funny hugging Harvey right right, you know what? And Jeff mentioned it too.

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Speaker 3: We thought that we had we hear it all the time about the shooter that I inherited, you know, in the nineties compared to the seventies and the eighties. But hell, I mean, I thought, surely wasn't as tough as Harve you. But maybe maybe I was wrong, you know what I mean, maybe that was wrong? But any else got I mean, what was it being a like being a PR guy under coach Sula? I mean, I've always wanted like we talked about, you know, we loved h we respect him, but you know, we didn't want to be a part of any of this ire ever. That was always our We always want to stay away from that.

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Speaker 4: I was blessed I worked as under PR for him for five years and only got yelled at once. And that's not bad. Now, that wasn't bad. It wasn't totally my fault. But I did get yelled at once, and so.

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Speaker 3: That's not right there. This doesn't matter if it's your fault of that right, it doesn't you know, you just take it.

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Speaker 4: But getting back to coaching, because the best thing about coach you and everyone who worked from a want to say the same thing. You would get destroyed, you'd get ripped, you'd get everything, But five minutes later it was forgotten and you moved on and you were back in as good graces. As long as you didn't screw with two things, family or cost games. Short of those two things, especially as children, you were fine. So this is back at the Nova Center, and Harvey was advancing a game, which meant he went away with on the road, and it was just me there and I have an open locker room, and I have to do Coach schule an interview with Leslie Visser, who was in town. So you have to time yourself perfectly to do the open locker room. Make sure the players aren't alone with the media. Run upstairs see coach Shuler, walk him down and get him the interview. Stay in the interview, get done with it, and go back upstairs. Get the injury port from him. Hopefully there are no incidents in the locker room with the players in the media and then do it. So I was running late for whatever reason, and I go up to see and Rodriguez, his secretary, and it's like here when you left downstairs for the interview, and I'm like, oh Srick, So the doors closed. I listened in and he had a good relationship with Leslie Visser and they're talking about castles and that kind of stuff because they both ran into each other at Wimbledon in England and had gone through a couple of castles together. So I'm going, okay, great, nothing bad happened. This interview was fine. They're just chit chatting. Now the interview's over. So I walked Coach Ula up to his office and he had this button on his door on his desk that closed the door. So he sits behind the desk and he pushes the button. Guys, now I know how the gang felt in Bronxtail.

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Speaker 1: When now you can't.

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Speaker 4: Leave because that door shuts and he starts destroying me. He's like, if I want it cold in that room, it's no one's business why it's cold, blah blah blah blah blah. I'm like, yes, Coach yes, coach I have no idea what he's talking about. So I walked, everyone can hear it outside the door. I don't care if the door is closed. I walk outside the door mel Phillips our defensive backs coaches there. He goes, you got it, didn't just got And I go, yeah, yeah I did. He goes, He goes, don't worry, man, there's no virgins in this building. That was his favorite line. There are no virgins in this building. We all got it at one point. So I come back to my office. I put my head down and someone, Fudge Brown, who worked in our area and worked in community relations, comes over and goes, did you just get yelled at by coach Sula? I said, no, Fudge, I got destroyed by Coachula. Was it about the air conditioning? I said, how do you know that? Hecues, well, I was in it with Leslie visitor, and Leslie comment that I was kind of cold in the room, and I said, yeah, it's kind of cold. He goes.

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Speaker 5: He goes, he goes, what can we lower it? Can we make it warmer?

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Speaker 4: Here? It's cold? I told Leslie that no Coachula wants a cold because he doesn't want to sweat on camera, and I'm going he told Leslie visitor that coach Cula wants a Colby, he doesn't want to sweat on camera. I guess she meant it to him, and he goes, I don't know why it's cold and hers because he told me that, because you don't want to sweat on camera. And I'm like, oh, that's what I got destroyed because of a small little comment about him not wanting to sweat on camera.

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Speaker 1: That you did.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't even in the room. I was this pr guy. He assumed I did it, and that was life, and we moved on. I got the injury port from him. It was fine, you know, and the next day we moved on. But for that six minutes of abuse, it stays to me a lifetime.

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Speaker 2: It does, I bet it does. And it stayed with you a little bit longer. And you didn't forget that Fudge was the one who made that comment innocently because there was a moment, right, there's another coach shoole the moment. It wasn't like the ass chewing that you just referred to. But you gotta tell that story too.

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Speaker 5: I could have gotten the ass chewing, so this is nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 4: Hurricane Andrew hit South Florida in August and it didn't destroy Saint Thomas University where we practiced, but it really leveled a lot of it. So Coach U had the team practicing at the stadium, and that's where our offices were at. We're in the stadium other than game day. Coach Shule had never been to the stadium. So he's wandering around the building looking for Harvey and all this stuff and comes in my office. I gotta be honest. In nineteen ninety we had a player here by the name of Tim mckaire. I loved Tim mcchire. I don't know why.

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Speaker 5: He probably goes down the only player in the world that Shula hated.

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Speaker 4: Despised Tim mckaire and for a lot of different reasons. He went shut his mouth, called him go ask doctor Schuele about an injury and all stuff like that. But Shula hated him, but I loved the guy. So I had his jersey hanging in my office, the only one of two jerseys I've ever had in my life, for Tim mckaire and Richmond Webb. And I had Tim mckaire's hanging in my office. So Shula's wander around the building, comes in my office looking for Harvey.

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Speaker 5: Was Where's Harvey? Stops short, looks at my wall and goes, Makaire, what.

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Speaker 4: The hell is that doing up there?

00:24:53
Speaker 5: I go, coach.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: It's Fudge's office.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why she teaches, but I thank god I thought that thing out real quick. Well, the truth of the matter is is that because of Hurricane Andrew, the Robbies who owned the team had lost their house or part of it or something, and they kept bringing their dogs into the office and Fudge watched their dogs. So one day before this whole shoel incine happens, I go to my office.

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Speaker 6: The dogs pooed in my office. Just like Fudge won't even clean it up. I had to clean it up. So of course it was perfect time that Shula comes in. I blame from the pirate, and everything even out. It always evens out.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, too good, too good. Well, well, Juice, We've had, as you know, our fair share of players who are also great practical jokers on this show. The Blackwood Brothers were were iconic. If you talk to the any of those guys from the eighties, just in terms of the pranks that they pulled. We know Manny Fernandez told us about the fan, and we don't know who the phantom was before him or after him. But there were those jokers in the locker room as well. But the jokes were not limited to the locker room. And as long as my guy here, Scott Stone, was a part of the organization, nobody was safe. And so well, I don't know that anybody was safe. I know, I sure as hell wasn't safe. And Scott and I had a complicated relationship for a while because he's one of my best friends in the building. But nobody came after me more than Scott did. Juice, nobody did, and typically it was little stuff, small stuff that he'll be happy to share with you, that he would do to torment me. But then I was at the center, or you were at the center of one of the greatest pranks that had ever been pulled in that building, and it was at my expense. So you've been waiting for this moment, So here you go. The floor is yours, all right.

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Speaker 4: Well, the first off, the Seth, as you guys may know, is the most anal person you're ever going to meet what oh not shocking.

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Speaker 2: Huh Wait a minute, I've outgrown some of it.

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Speaker 4: A company lost his dry clean would never go back to that company again. And so I mean I enjoyed it, That's true.

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Speaker 5: I enjoyed this. Drawing him.

00:27:08
Speaker 4: I would go by his desk and remove all his red pens because you need red pens to prove, and it'd be fine done and go nuts.

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Speaker 5: I would raise him lower his chair.

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Speaker 2: His chair thing would piss me off. I know it would because nobody would notice it, nobody, but I would sit down, you know, and it's like when you get in your car and then the freaking rear view mirrors not who was the chair thing? Well, and and Juice, after about the third time, I would just go marching in his office and I think he and Rodney could hear me stomping down the freaking hallway and they knew it and they were giggling by the time I walked in.

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed the chair thing, but that was nothing compared to the massacre at Denham.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, So.

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Speaker 2: You don't know the story, Juice.

00:27:49
Speaker 4: Oh you're gonna die. Seth was mine for whatever reason. I owned him. So he's in a He's in a road trip with Denham out the way, waiting for the Patriots game, and his roommate was my assistant, Rodney. Would those who know Rodney well Seth doesn't better than most now knows that Rodney was a snorer. Not just a snore. I mean he was an earthquake snorer. So you know, the night before game and Seth wants to go to bed and Rodney's snoring, and sets like, I can't handle this. So he goes down to the sheets, puts his head under the pillow, doesn't block out the snoring. If I'm saying this wrong, you let me know.

00:28:28
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I'm go for it. So far, so good, All.

00:28:31
Speaker 4: Right, takes then he decides, all right, I gotta go in the bathroom. So he takes all the sheets and everything, goes in the bathroom, starts to sleep in the bathtub, closes the door. Still here's Rodney snoring.

00:28:42
Speaker 5: He goes, I got to sleep. This is crazy.

00:28:45
Speaker 2: It was like laying on the side of I ninety five trying to get some sleep in.

00:28:49
Speaker 4: It was like the opening scene that finding looking for Private Ryan or what have you. I mean, there's what's flying everywhere finally takes his sheet is comfort or everything, goes out and sleeps in the hall outside.

00:29:00
Speaker 5: The room, damn, so we can get away from Rodney snore.

00:29:05
Speaker 2: Just outside of the door, Jude, it was. I was right outside of the door.

00:29:08
Speaker 4: So so dolphins go on, they play, they win the game, they come back home.

00:29:13
Speaker 5: I hear the story. I'm like, yeah, okay, I gotta do something with this.

00:29:16
Speaker 2: Well, so I did get awakened at six in the morning. A security guard like kicked me in the ribs like I was a vagrant, and he was like, what are you doing out here? I said, where are you supposed to be? I said, well, this is my room, you know, thinking like that's okay. He goes, well, you can't be in the hallway, and I'm like, well, okay, yes, sir. I like trying to explain all of that. And I didn't get any damn sleep because I had only been out there for like an hour and ten minutes. And yeah, so I grabbed all my stuff and went back in the room at six.

00:29:45
Speaker 3: Big sense, I mean, I mean bro in the hallway, though you could have gone through like the launching room, the ice machine room or something like that, right in the middle of the hallway.

00:29:55
Speaker 2: I mean it was carpeted, it was air condition.

00:30:00
Speaker 4: A nice hotel.

00:30:01
Speaker 1: It was very nice and air condition.

00:30:02
Speaker 3: It wasn't too high, it wasn't too No, coach.

00:30:07
Speaker 4: This is Jimmy Johnson. We weren't worrying about the air conditioning.

00:30:09
Speaker 3: That but you know, I mean, we both know it wasn't all jokes and pranks. You know, the wat we're just getting started, Okay.

00:30:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just a setup.

00:30:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm not there. I find out about the story. They go, oh, I got to get set. So I call up to the hotel and get part of their stationary, and I write a letter to Brian ween Meyer and c see Jimmy Johnson and whoever Harvey.

00:30:39
Speaker 2: Green and everyone don't forget him.

00:30:44
Speaker 4: Just saying that from the general manager of the hotel saying that during your recent stay, one of your employees was caught sleeping.

00:30:51
Speaker 5: In the hallways.

00:30:53
Speaker 4: We're a finalist to host the Democratic National Convention, and Ted Kennedy was walking through the hallways and all this, and we're now going to lose our biggest opportunity to have business here because we're gonna lose a Democratic natural invention. Because he saw this vagrant sleeping in the hallway, and we don't want you coming back. So either take you said, either they come back or we lose. We don't want you coming back to our hotel. And so I sent that letter, and of course we won the game, and coach Johnson, like every other coach is to fit, is superstitious and he's going to want to come back the next year. So now Seth is the reason we can't go back allegedly to today.

00:31:31
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety seven. So I had just been hired full time. I had achieved my goal. I did the internship and then I had achieved my goal. This is my first year full time, and it's all about to unravel.

00:31:42
Speaker 4: YEP. So I give the letter to Harvey. Harvey calls him Brian Weidmeyer. They all know where it's a joke. Go ahead, go ahead.

00:31:48
Speaker 2: You guys overnighted the letter back to them with a shipping label to have them send it back.

00:31:55
Speaker 5: I'm not good.

00:31:55
Speaker 4: Yes, you're right.

00:31:57
Speaker 2: So because I was like, wait, this has got to be fake. And then they cause Dave O'Connor, who's the ops guy, comes walking into Harvey's office and he goes, Harvey, can we can we And I was like, hey Dave, you know, hey, Doc all excited, and he just kind of ignored me, and he walks right into Harvey's office and they call me in. Scott's nowhere around. So Scott's at the freaking center to this thing, and he's nowhere around at this point, Juice and and Harvey said, and I'm like, well, yeah, I did this, but you know, and so I'm explaining what happened and I'm about to throw up, like I just and he hands me the letter and I even like, go can I And I look at I think maybe it was DHL or I don't know what it was, but I look at the envelope and it is sent from Debtham like it was. Now. I wasn't smart enough to check the it was probably our number, right because I don't think, you know, but they got whoever the hotel rep was in Debtham in on the joke, they got their letterhead they got I mean, it was so well done and we're still not done.

00:32:54
Speaker 1: Oh no are you?

00:32:55
Speaker 4: I mean basically, Seth gets called in with Brian and Harvey and you know, how do we handle this? I mean, Coach Johnson wants to come back to the hotel, and I wasn't in the room, so you got to tell that part.

00:33:05
Speaker 2: But well, no, so before that happened, you came by because remember we said the Dolphin Digest and everything. You would hang out at the talk to Gail, and you would hang out like all the publications because the internet hadn't blown up yet, all the publications were on the corner of that desk and you were just reading and Harvey started talking, and then Harvey starts bitching at you about Rodney. So they get Harvey and Scott get into this argument juice, and it's frigging oscar Worthy, like like, I'm buying into the whole thing. I had just gone downstairs to tell my roommate, Miguel Rueda, who was interning, excuse me in the training room, and I was like, dude, I think I'm done, like I think, and I'm sick. And he was like, oh my god, what happened me? While he knew and he didn't have the you know, he like wanted to tell me. Everybody frigging building knew about this. But I come up and Harvey goes, goddamn Rodney would, and Scott's like, what do you mean Rodney, He's like your guy, My guy was asleep. You know where he was supposed to be. YOURGA employee is the one he was sleeping in the hallway? What are you playing? And they get into this argument over whose employee was less professional, this whole thing, and Scott storms out and they're yelling at each other, and then I'm sitting down at my desk and I'm like dying a thousand deaths too. So I'm really like, oh my, I can't believe I spent my whole life trying to get to this moment and it's all gonna go When all I tried to do was get a good night's sleep. It wasn't even like I went out and you know, it was out in the streets or anything. And then Brian Weidmeyer comes in and he walks into Harvey's office and he closes the door and then they call me in and I'm literally dying without like I'm sweating, I've got the chill. I'm just dying a thousand deaths. And I walk in and Brian's holding the letter and he goes, Seth is it. Can you explain this? And I have it? You know, I'm trying to explain it to Brian Weidmeyer, who is an intimidating guy, never cracks a smile. And then Harvey's like, look, we'll figure this out in this room. I'm more worried about coach Shula or you know, I'm sorry, I'm more worried about Jimmy or or Wayne finding out. And you look down and they're c seed on the letter, and he goes, now, I'm gonna go over to and Rodriguez's office and I'll see if I can inter the letter, but I can't get down at Fort Lard and if Wayne he probably already had. And he's just going on and and like I'm I'm starting to fall back against the wall. Ju And then Brian says, you were sleeping on the floor and I said, said, yes, sir, and he goes, did you tear the curtains off the walls to use him as blankets? And then he and Harvey just start cracking up and they think it's the funniest thing in the world. And I'm like, none of this is real, and it's almost like punked, and everybody comes running out and they're all hiding around the different offices and the layers of deception and deceit.

00:35:46
Speaker 1: I was hurt.

00:35:47
Speaker 2: I was hurt. I can laugh at it now.

00:35:48
Speaker 1: I was hurt. That's so good man.

00:35:52
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

00:35:53
Speaker 1: That is that Scott Man. That is I mean, guys.

00:35:57
Speaker 2: Need to do some damn work.

00:36:00
Speaker 1: It was fun, man.

00:36:01
Speaker 4: And the best part is when he went back to his office to sit down, the chair was lowered.

00:36:08
Speaker 1: The cake, Yeah, I said, on the cake.

00:36:11
Speaker 4: But you weren't my only guy, so don't worry about it. There was nobody safe.

00:36:15
Speaker 1: Well man, I mean you're just.

00:36:18
Speaker 4: The most sensitive with it, so you got.

00:36:20
Speaker 2: The most well that one. Anybody would have been sensitive to that one. But yes, I was hyper sensitive.

00:36:26
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't realize you guys had much I had so much fun, you know, because.

00:36:31
Speaker 4: We we make it somewhere.

00:36:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, we make it tough on you guys.

00:36:34
Speaker 3: I know that building is not easy for you guys, man, And uh damn that that's that's that's that sounds like a lot of fun. But obviously you know it wasn't all funny gamesmen, because you don't. You don't last you know, thirty years in an organization or hell, in any sports for that matter. If you aren't getting something some quality shit done Scott as we all know. With that, I want to say that, you know, I find it interesting for us old guys that we were there when the internet explosion kind of happened.

00:37:01
Speaker 1: I mean, that's we were.

00:37:01
Speaker 3: We were right there and you were challenged with turning Miami Dolphins dot Com, you know, from you know, a landing page basically for you know, ticket sales and things like that, into a content machine.

00:37:12
Speaker 1: Can you talk.

00:37:13
Speaker 3: About, you know, some of those early days of the team's website, some of the cool stuff your department was rolling out, and and maybe what it was like, you know, to have to go into Harvey's office or going to Brian Weemeer's office. We talked about previously and say, hey, what do you think of this?

00:37:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was blessed because I was working for Brian and Eddie. They were innovators at their time, and we were fortunate enough to be the people who got Myself and Rodney Wood were fortunate enough to be the people who got the benefit of that because I started off in media relations and then they went to publications, and then they put us in charge of the Internet and honestly got we're the only people on.

00:37:53
Speaker 5: The Internet in the building. We had that old crappy.

00:37:55
Speaker 4: Dial up modem, all that noise, and people would come to our office and just want to do stuff, and we're the only ones who had it. So we were there and launching Dolphins dot com and later on we launched Facebook, and we launched our.

00:38:08
Speaker 5: Twitter page and things like that.

00:38:10
Speaker 4: We also, you know, we're fortunate enough enough to be innovators in that we were like the first team to have a daily radio show online before there was The Finsiders. We had it with Barry Butel and Andy Ken, who was our writer, and we did every single day from my office. We had commercials and took phone calls and all that good stuff. We did video blogs before most teams had done it. And this is during two thousand and seven. I don't know, but you remember two thousand and seven.

00:38:38
Speaker 2: But ninety seven, right, like, oh no.

00:38:40
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, two thousand and seven, Well, this was this is one in fifteen.

00:38:45
Speaker 2: Oh, this is one in fifteen.

00:38:47
Speaker 4: And we had Brian Weidmeier do one every single once a week. We had John Offford, I'll come in and talk once a week. I do a video blog and a cheerleader and that was tough because you're trying to find out stuff positive to do on a video blog in the middle of a one and fifteen season, right, So we did that. We also were the first among the first teams that did postgame live show from the stadium. We had that, We had a set up at the home games and did that. So we were blussed that we had innovators and people who believed in us and were able to lay the groundwork hopefully for where you know, Finn Cigers became and you were part of that as well as where we are now with podcasts all things like that.

00:39:27
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Man, that's the innovative you know, and then when you do stuff like that, Scott, people want to emulate it. So that's how other organizations and other sports as well. Obviously we're following suit and what you guys are doing. Man's that's kind of like Seth. Maybe that's how you know, you and I were doing a lot of the you know, the Tuesday chats as well, you know, being trying to be innovative.

00:39:48
Speaker 1: Now now it's common practice.

00:39:50
Speaker 5: I'll take credit for for Travis. I'm not sure I want to take credit for Seth.

00:39:53
Speaker 2: Being part of it. You gotta be careful who you claim right, picks you say were mine in which you blame on the other guy, right doubt all right, a hot topic with Dolphins fans, especially over the last few years, but I think it's it's always been. It's a Hall of Fame selection process, and you know, as a lifetime fan of certainly the Dolphins but the league in general, I love the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I remember when I was driving up to Cleveland to work with the Cavs and we stopped in Canton, and it was it was like a mountaintop moment for me. And that was before the Hall kind of blew up into into what it is now. But I just love everything that it stands for. But I never realized how little that I knew about the process. Even you know, we would help Harvey, you would help We would help Harvey when he was trying to help Bob Kuchenberg or whoever it was. But I never really understood the process until JT went through it in twenty seventeen. So I think that a lot of people probably don't know this, but you have played an important role, I would say, at least going back to twenty seventeen when whether it was JT, Zach, the efforts for Richmond Clayton and so on. You've played an important role in helping Armando with research, helping Armando with with you know, the ideation stage of like what is the best story to tell here? You know, because the accomplishments are the accomplishments, and we all believe these guys are Hall of Fame caliber players, but you still have to frame the story to get in a room and convince other people who are concerned about the guys they want to get in and so on and so forth. Can you just talk about that process and your involvement.

00:41:27
Speaker 5: I mean, I'll except JT.

00:41:29
Speaker 4: Gay in first bouts you I mean you.

00:41:31
Speaker 2: Came up with JT.

00:41:32
Speaker 4: You came up with JT, and then you also came up with.

00:41:35
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying it's Jason Taylor. He got in the first ballot is on him.

00:41:39
Speaker 1: But that was due.

00:41:40
Speaker 5: That was your guy. I'll give you that.

00:41:42
Speaker 4: You came up with the note that changed our whole thought process about how to get JT as a first ballot, and you know that was that was awesome.

00:41:51
Speaker 5: That was a fun experience, Zach. Was interesting.

00:41:54
Speaker 4: That was a different experience because he wasn't the slam dunk for ballot John Elway, Dan Marino, Don Shula guy. It took him a few years to get in. And I like to say that your numbers get you to the door, especially if you're not a Marino, Lway, Shoela guy, but it's your presenter that gets you the gold jacket.

00:42:18
Speaker 5: And we did a lot of work and helping him.

00:42:20
Speaker 4: Zach was very cooperative and pinpointing the right material for him to talk to with interviews and stuff.

00:42:26
Speaker 5: Because when you retire, your numbers don't change.

00:42:28
Speaker 4: So how do you get in the Hall of Fame If your numbers don't change, You just drop, drop, drop every single year and you try and build a case. And then after four or five years, we're fortunate enough to build a case that got Zach where he.

00:42:43
Speaker 5: Belonged in the Hall of Fame.

00:42:44
Speaker 4: And as a testament to Armando and its persistence that that that was able to be done, and that one that one I'm most proud of because it it there was you know, people talk about the success, but Bill Parcells or whoever was and the process, the process was fun, planning out a way for Zach to all of a sudden gain in people's eyes, especially Hall of Fame voters. I know he was the fans, and I know fans kept ripping Armando saying that it's actually been the first ballot, it's actually been a second ballot, you know, But he wasn't. But it was Armando's persistence that got him in there, and the process was so much fun.

00:43:24
Speaker 5: I'll then forget the day.

00:43:25
Speaker 4: He did an interview with he's doing an interview with like four or five stations. It was the day that Kobe died, and the question himself whether he should do the interview or not, because you know, the whole world's about Kobe and the helicopter crash, and.

00:43:38
Speaker 5: We're like, you have to do it.

00:43:40
Speaker 4: And he was so good on those interviews, reflecting on Kobe and everything else. I'm not sure that helped anything because they're all Hall of Fame voters that we put him on with, but it just is it was in a fun process.

00:43:52
Speaker 2: Well, I think it does help, right, I mean, if you're on with those Hall of Fame voters, I think what happens and we're seeing it with Richmond Webb, what happens to some guys. Unfortunately, it didn't happen to Zach, And you know, the persistence, I think the creativity and the reminders of like, look at this guy's body of work. Look at it compared to other people who you have said, yeah, a guy's first ballot Hall of Famer. And so I think at the end of the day, if those guys did not have Hall of Fame caliber careers, like elite, best of the best caliber careers, they wouldn't even be in the conversation. But sometimes people are in the conversation and then they start to fall out of it and they almost get forgotten. And I think, you know, I think Richmond is a victim of that in a lot of ways. And so to be able to creatively not just you can't go in there and tell the same story. But what do you mean he did this? Well, that didn't work before for whatever reason, it didn't work before. So how can we creatively tell you again that this dude was a badass and one of the greatest badasses of all times. And so that in and of itself, like I remember talking to you and Armando about it that fortunately we with JT and people believed and you know, it all made sense. But you know, we unloaded every chamber that we had, you know, in the sense that these are all the things that we think are the story. But if I think back and say, would you do the exact same thing again if you had to do it the second time? Or do you have to find a new way to do it? So I give you guys a lot of credit for that. And you know, and then clearly Zach gave you a lot to work with over the course of his Hall of Fame career, so all of that stuff kind of ties together. It's super cool. Appreciate you sharing that.

00:45:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, I mean, I think honestly, you think about it, Scott, you said it best man. All these guys have incredible numbers. So how do you basically, I don't know if I can phrase it this, well, how do you steal some votes?

00:45:45
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

00:45:45
Speaker 3: How can you get guys that weren't originally going to vote for you to vote for you.

00:45:50
Speaker 1: I'll take an example.

00:45:51
Speaker 3: I was at the Penn State Fiesta Bowl, right, and you know, I see the fifteen guys that are finalists, and you know, I've got my top five guys, and I look back behind me at the game and he sizzles behind me, you know, censors behind me, and I'm like, I saw how awesome he was with everybody picture shaking hands, you know, you know, watching trying to watch the game and everything. And I went back and I revamped my top five, you know what I mean. So you give these guys exactly right, You give these guys an opportunity to see the person up in the stats. And I think that that goes a long way. Like you're like, you're talking about yeah, I mean what.

00:46:27
Speaker 4: We did with Zach quite frankly, was we took away his name, We took away Earlaker's name, we took away we lose his name and looked at your stats.

00:46:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, and which one is ray Lewis? Which one is or Alacker? Which one is Zach? And you really can't tell the numbers.

00:46:39
Speaker 2: Well and that so that's what it comes down to. I you know, I think about this with Pro Bowl voting, even we we focus on the people we focus on and the people that we know the best, right and selectors too, I mean, they are charged with knowing the entire league and having to make those decisions. But the reality is is you're always going to know a little bit more about some guys than you do. And so the perception of hey, that guy had a Pro Bowl caliber year, that guy had a Hall of Fame caliber career. You're not wrong, but so did the other guy. That's why he's also in the room, you know. But you have to just use the term still votes, and it is in a sense, it's you have to get out in front of somebody and say, yeah, there's no doubt that player X was absolutely a great and they should be considered by you, but don't forget about player why. And here's the reason that you shouldn't forget about player why. And then when you put player X player why together, and if you're not forgetting about why, he might actually impress him more. And so I think that that is so much part of the process, not campaigning necessarily, but it's like the story needs to be told because those guys aren't playing any more games, and so it's like, how can you make people at least go in there with an open mind and not just have a predetermined thought as to who belongs. And so that's what I think it all comes down to, very very cool.

00:48:01
Speaker 1: Well, Scott Man, you, I mean, you had an amazing run with the Dolphins.

00:48:05
Speaker 4: Five decades five deck wow wow wow wow.

00:48:09
Speaker 3: And just another example of the people who work to ass off you Harvey, Big, Seth Fudge, all the guys that work their ass off and allow guys like myself to strictly just focus on football. I mean, that's that's that's the truth.

00:48:21
Speaker 2: Man.

00:48:21
Speaker 3: We Seth you could yeah, I know both. I know both of you guys know about you know, the Harvey you know and the duck story. You know what I mean with with the duck you know, I mean we're up there cruising along.

00:48:33
Speaker 1: But you guys, what are you guys doing? What are you guys doing below the water right? You know what I mean. It's that's that's real talk right there. Man.

00:48:39
Speaker 3: So when you look back though, Scout, you know, in your time with the team, what are you the most proud of being a part of the organization?

00:48:47
Speaker 5: I thought about this.

00:48:49
Speaker 4: I am most proud when people come to the Dolphins offices over a the stadium and they walked past that coach a statue that I made.

00:48:57
Speaker 5: That statue.

00:48:59
Speaker 4: Brian Wimeyer charged me with the design of that statue, and I went through thousands and thousands of photos and video Coachula being carried off the field to get where the right hand angle was who was actually lifting him all that stuff. And I when I come back to the offices and I walk past that, and I came up and it's not bragging. I don't like the brag, but I came up with a perfect moment in time. It's being the name of the statue. That's what I'm most proud of because it's gonna be there for one hundred million years and it represents the person who is one of my three mentors in life, Coach Sula. So I you know, I could say, hey, we've built relationship with fan sites, I could say we launched this on that in the web, but that statue is permanent, and I'm most proud of that.

00:49:49
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what gut that just gave me goosebumps.

00:49:52
Speaker 3: It really did, man, because how many people realize when they walk by that statue, the work that you put in to find the perfect moment, perfect opportunity, perfect picture, you know, to create that incredible statue in it, And then they got.

00:50:05
Speaker 5: Ripped for it?

00:50:06
Speaker 2: Who who? I don't know, I got I got ripped by Nick Bonikani said, I didn't lift that guy up on my shoulder.

00:50:13
Speaker 5: It wasn't me.

00:50:14
Speaker 4: I'm like, look at the picture.

00:50:15
Speaker 2: He didn't even remember that he did it.

00:50:17
Speaker 4: No, No, I mean what makes it special as it was him? And I think it was multi Morning is a journeyman lineman and Hall of Fame linebacker carrying coach you off the field? Beautiful moment. And then I get ripped saying.

00:50:29
Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't carry that guy on my shoulder.

00:50:31
Speaker 2: I'm like, it was the culmination of perfection. Like what happens for it? Wow?

00:50:37
Speaker 4: Whatever?

00:50:38
Speaker 2: Yeah? Whatever is right? Hey, at least, like you said, it's permanent. So I was so proud of my Pro Bowl project and then, uh, you know, Coach Wantston tore it down about six weeks after it got put up on the walls. So at least nobody. Hey, so you said something when OJ started to ask the question. Mm hmmm five decades. Yeah, so explain that because you know it was thirty like thirty two years. I think it was your actual length of service, but every five consecutive decades from the eighties to the twenty twenty, right, Yeah, I.

00:51:12
Speaker 4: Was twenty one, who's hired in nineteen eighty nine, so that kiss me the eighties, and I left after twenty twenty or twenty one, and that gives me the twenty twenties. So that's five from me, proud of two.

00:51:22
Speaker 2: Has anybody else done that?

00:51:23
Speaker 4: No, I mean we consecutively know because I mean that's been with the organization. Obviously, it's a player a long time, and then it's front office. But he wasn't there for a few years. He ran its foundation. Danny obviously was there as a player, then came back, but he wasn't there for a few years in the middle. So no, no, five decades. I joke that I left the Dobbins when I was fifty three, but I worked for them for five decades.

00:51:49
Speaker 1: Lab labor.

00:51:52
Speaker 2: Yes, there, it is full time, all right, Scott. You would know this if you actually listen to our show. But we end every episode of the Fish Tank the same way, and that's with our Fish Tank two minute drill. So I know we all have a lot to go to make happen here today, but give us two more minutes. We're gonna put two minutes on the clock, some fast paced questions, all right, Maybe we'll have some fun, Maybe we'll have some fun webspense you know how that goes, and then we'll take this thing home. So good. Sure, all right, clock is running, juice, you're.

00:52:22
Speaker 1: Up, all right?

00:52:23
Speaker 3: Scott the greatest former member of the Miami Dolphins media relations department, who also graduated from Piper High School and worked in the University of Florida Sports Information office.

00:52:34
Speaker 2: Is you know.

00:52:38
Speaker 4: It's like to debate who the greatest quarterback is. You know, you gotta you gotta, you gotta break it down. So if we break it down the championships, yeah, no, forget that one will then we go to PFW got I'm sorry, the FW Awards, which is being the best PR department in the NFL.

00:52:54
Speaker 5: I won one seth one one, so that's tie.

00:52:57
Speaker 1: Okay. I was part of waiting to you.

00:53:00
Speaker 5: What's that?

00:53:01
Speaker 4: I was part of a winning team, winning team also, So then he's gotta go with Harvey Light versus Harvey and you know it's no comparison.

00:53:08
Speaker 2: Schedule, So you're going schedule. You didn't know he was a Piper guy. Strake's's schedule takes it home, all right, I will have to reveal that one sounds good? All right, As we just mentioned Yourmimi Dolphins career saw you work for the club in five different decades over that span. What was your best memory and what was your worst memory?

00:53:31
Speaker 5: January seventeenth, nineteen ninety three, Boys, I remember that.

00:53:34
Speaker 2: That's the best or the worst? Yes, okay.

00:53:38
Speaker 4: J seventeen, nineteen ninety three, were playing the Buffalo Bills in the Nancy Championship. It was they had a two by week that year, so there was no buy between the super Bowl and Nancy Championship. I had my bags packed in my car. I was going right from the stadium to the airport, going right to LA to advance the super Bowl. So the build up that entire day of knowing where one game away we're home against We're gonna go to the super Bowl was the greatest moment in my life. And then we couldn't figure out how to stop a Thurm and Thomas screen pass, and.

00:54:07
Speaker 5: We're not going to the super Bowl.

00:54:08
Speaker 4: I have to go back home that night, unpacked and go back to work the next day and the stadium and off things like that. Highest thing was knowing we're going to the super Bowl. The lowest moment was knowing we're not going to the super Bowl. Because that day hurt on your.

00:54:22
Speaker 1: Emotions right there.

00:54:23
Speaker 3: That's that's the hell of a way to mess with somebody's emotions, big set.

00:54:27
Speaker 1: All right, keep it going with clock's running here. All right.

00:54:29
Speaker 3: We've been lobbying softball questions all day right here, Scott. But you know, but I've got some heat for you this time. You're ready for this heat?

00:54:36
Speaker 4: Yep.

00:54:37
Speaker 3: You talked about the Hall of Fame process, and you know all the Dolphins that are not in the Hall of Fame. You know who many feel are deserving. Who is the one guy that you feel that's not in there right now that should get the gold jacket?

00:54:51
Speaker 2: Easy?

00:54:52
Speaker 4: Okay. I told you guys. I have Tim mc kaire and Richmond Webb's jerseys. There's only jerseys ever had. And I love Richmond I consider my front So it's not Tim kaire. No. When when I was sick, he actually sent me text would pray for me. I love Richmond Webb. I love Mark Clayton. I was fortunate enough to work with him. Great players, great representative of the Dolphins as far as success goes. But I have a personal moment and personal belief in this that there is no excuse that media members are in the Hall of Fame. Officials are in the Hall of Fame. Dro manager in the Hall of Fame, but assistant coaches are not in the Hall of Fame.

00:55:30
Speaker 5: Bill Arnsberger needs to.

00:55:33
Speaker 2: Be in the Hall of Fame.

00:55:36
Speaker 4: I worked my butt off with Nat to get him on the honor roll or Ring of Honor, whatever it's called now, But they need to be appreciated. Bill Arnsberger is the only guy in NFL history to have two defenses with nicknames, the Killer Bees and and and the No Name. I'll give you one great Bill Arnsbarger stat why I'm such a big fan. He was with the He was with the He started his career under Schula at the Cold went to a Super Bowl, comes to the Dolphins with Shula, goes to three straight Super Bowls, wins two, goes bout, goes to Giants as a head coach, not doing great there, comes back to the Dolphins, went to another Super Bowl with Don Shula, goes to LSU as head coach. Then he goes to Florida, where it's where I really got to know him well as the AD and I was working in Florida. Retired, comes back and decides I'm with coach one more time with the Chargers, then you go to the super Bowl. I mean, just an amazing run of success, six super Bowls, all those basically in eighteen years. He went to six Super Bowls, averaged one Super Bowl every three years, which before Bill Belichick was amazing. So why in the world assistant coaches who were just as hard as head coach as everyone else are not in the Hall of Fame is crazy to me.

00:56:47
Speaker 5: So that's my guy.

00:56:49
Speaker 2: I didn't see that coming. It's a great answer. I think we're past two minutes. But you know he's a PR guy. He'll shave some time off somewhere left. PRIs last question for you. You worked four and a round, some absolute legends and some greats. Well you just mentioned Bill Arsmurder, but Don Shula, Eddie Jones, Dan Marino, Richmond Webb, hell, throw Harvey in there too. What is the best piece of advice that you were ever given from someone within the Miami Dolphins organization.

00:57:13
Speaker 5: I know the best advice I ever gave someone is you're going to host the podcast?

00:57:17
Speaker 4: But no, no, God, I don't know. I'll tell quick Eddie Jones story. What made him special? Is I had just gotten married. I was making seventeen thousand a year as Harvey's assistant, and we were looking to buy a house. And I had just gotten married. And I went to his office and I said, Eddie, you know, how's it going?

00:57:37
Speaker 1: What am I doing?

00:57:38
Speaker 4: I mean, I want to buy a house?

00:57:39
Speaker 1: Am I?

00:57:39
Speaker 5: Okay?

00:57:40
Speaker 4: Eddie looked at me in the eyest As long as I have a job, you have a job. And I learned so much about being a human being and being in leadership from that one little statement with Eddie. So it wasn't really advice, but it was the moment that will stay with me forever. That category, that showed what the organization was about and what he was about.

00:57:58
Speaker 2: Well, that's a great answer. And you know what, Okay, blow the whistle. That's a too minute drill.

00:58:03
Speaker 4: That's fine.

00:58:04
Speaker 2: I asked Harvey a similar question, and you know what he told me, Rent, don't buy? Am I gonna be okay? Rent, don't buy?

00:58:13
Speaker 1: What about.

00:58:20
Speaker 2: I'm telling you?

00:58:21
Speaker 6: Yeah?

00:58:22
Speaker 2: I think he got that from Steinbreder as well. So so good man, Well, this was this was worth the wait.

00:58:30
Speaker 5: Oh you okay, podcast host, thank you, thank you very much.

00:58:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had a few reps. But you know, not everybody agrees with you, so it's okay, I am until they tell me I'm not. I guess you use another Harvey greenism.

00:58:46
Speaker 1: A lot of fun.

00:58:47
Speaker 2: Excited that we've that that you've given us the opportunity to tell your story because I think it's one that needs to be told, so appreciate you happy to do it.

00:58:54
Speaker 4: Thanks for diving in I Wish there when it was invented, you're now diving.

00:59:07
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