Trent Gamble: Underestimation Was My Weapon

00:00:00 Speaker 1: You're now diving sitting down with Seth living Oh Jay, And this is strictly for I'm a true fans number one one of course, y'all. This ain't the other never sports talk. Welcome back to the Fish Tank, presented by iHeart Radio right here on the Miami Dolphins podcast Network, Seth Levitt and the only podcaster to be honorary captain for a seventy point performance in the National Football League. O J McDuffie, juice, are you fired up for this? Man? You know, I am big, Seth. I'm always fired up to get back in the studio with you, man. But this guest right here, man is one of my favorite for all time. Man, So it's gonna be a lot of fun. Well, normally you only like guys on the offensive side of the ball, but Trent Gamble, first of all, welcome to the Fish Tank. Thanks so Jay, nice to be here. Great to have you here. But not only did you play defense, but he played special teams and there's a special place in your heart for that always man teamers. Man. You know, I saw I broke in in the NFL. No matter what you say about my draft status, except here's Trent. This guy here is always trying to give me crap about my draft status. Man, But today's seth. I'm gonna get ahead of the game. Man. It's not about me, It's about Trent Right. It's an incredible story. Who has no draft status? Right, He's sitting here trying to act like I was a special teams guy. Man, So let's talk about your nine draft status. Let's let's think about this here. Five eight, one hundred and eighty five, five nine and eighty five pounds safety corner. We just talked about. I'll take five nineties, five to nine. I'm five nine. I went at five to ten in the program, but actually five to nine going drafted out of Wyoming. But you come here with the Miami Dolphins, you run four to three and you light up every single drill. I mean that right there alone. My best time was full four two four, four to three. Maybe that was at home with the wind behind me and the right and who who was exactly right? Tell us how how it all went down, man, Because a lot of guys we've had on the tank, it seems like that kind of have your status all roads led through Mike west Off. How to go down for you? Yeah, so not being drafted, you have an opportunity to sign with multiple teams, right, So I had a few teams that were interested, but the Dolphins ended up being the best pick, even though at that time we had like one of the top dB crews in the in the whole league, so and we had drafted three dbs. So it was like, well, maybe that wasn't the best situation, but it was like special teams is like so important to them, and that's how you're going to cut your path. So this is the best place to go. And and that's how it went down. Right over the summer and all the drills, like everyone's saying like slow down and west off, you know when we have those OTAs. He has all his specialty Aames drills and he's really watching does anyone really care? You know? And are they going to take it serious? And so that was my only way And I started going one hundred miles an hour and he saw that. It was like you're taking this serious and I'm gonna I'm gonna give you an opportunity. Yeah, it's so funny you say that about people telling you to slow down. That's the last thing you tell a young person because that's how you get cut. Well, who is saying it? The veterans usually you said, the older guys. You know, I'm making me look bad. That's the last thing you want is to slow down. And you know, and one thing about Mike west Off and this team is that the Dolphins were one of the only teams that took special teams as serious as offense and defense. And so that's why you know, I know for a fact that he went to bat for me on draft day because I was a return guy, but he wanted to I could be a receiver, lady, even though we had receivers here. But yeah, that's good stuff with Mike. Mike was always serious about special teams. Yeah, so I said, I came here as a free agent, but it wasn't until like the summer where going through all those drills. As he's watching, he's like, you know, I'm going to put you in the positions to try and make it. So in that first preseason game, I was already a starting flyer because of what I'd done over the summer, and it was just the opportunity to go get it done. But you know, most of the guys that have come, you know, our first year in the league as a rookie. Most of those guys haven't played special teams since they were freshmen, and it's like, you know, I'm a star in college, so I'm going to come here and special teams is like, you know for me. You know, I didn't even start till I was a senior, so I had a different route. So I was playing special teams all the way up, so I knew that was my open door. These flyers, you know, you see, they get they get abused that there well or run by people speed, So absolutely no. I just remember, so, okay, you survived that first mini camp training camp starts and how many how many dbs were you said, we drafted three, so it was Ben Kelly, Arturro Freeman was another guy, Jeff Harris, Jeff Harris. We drafted those three guys. But as you said, Pat, sam Brock, Marion, you know, b Warry Wilson, all those Jeffries. Yeah, all that whole crew. And you're so, how many dbs are ahead of you when you start camp? So they were nineteen at the start of camp and I was number nineteen, number nineteen at nineteen defensive backs, and you know it can get discouraging. It's like you'll you'll do special teams, but really offense and defense is if you can't step in at least as a backup, and you know, it doesn't matter how good you are. You know you have to be able to do both. And those those days where you're not getting the reps and it's like, man, I'm nineteen, they keep eight like like there's just no shot. But I learned every position, so I knew corner, nick and dime, both safeties, so I could plug in. I didn't make mental mistakes and ended up. You know, some guys cut themselves out and worked my way up and by the first the first game, I was on the active special teams and then playing some Nick and dime. I talk about a guy, Scott Miller all the time on our podcast, and that's the thing he told me as a wide receiver, a young wide receiver with greats on our team, Verrom Friar, Mark Ingham, I mean duper was on the team at that time. To beginning, learn every position. Because you learn every position, you'll dress out every single game. You know, everybody was worried about being a nickel or a dime or outside corner just you learn every position. You got an opportunity every single week, and you will. I mean, the forty seven is a forty seven man roster, so the guy that can do everything is going to dress out every game. And that's that's a that's a great way of doing it. Man. And now you say nineteenth. But what I was getting at was people were telling you to slow down. Like your name started to pop up. They were talking about you because of the way you were performing in these drills. Because little white guy shows up from Wyoming and that defensive back room, and and if you impress those guys, you start to hear you know, you start to hear Tran's name and oh Trent this, Trent that and everything. So you started to get attention. But you also started getting attention from some of the veterans. And in any training camp there's always one vet that's making life miserable for the young guys. Who was that for you, Lamar Thomas? Why is your guys? Of course it was L two. But he's not even in the dB room. Why is he giving you a hard time? It's just like one of his favorite things to do outside of talk, well, talking is his favorite, is his favorite that just happens to be one of the branches. But you know, but I'm having to cover him in different seven on seven and team and things like that, and you know, he's what six to three, So he's looking down like this is a joke, right, But he he's not doing it like in a nasty way. He's like, you know, but we're going to see what you're made of. Because what I see right now is I can rattle this this one and I can see if I can run you out of here. You know. But practice after practice, he'd keep talking and I wouldn't say a word, and you know, I think I pushed him down and knocked the ball out once and he was like like, I'm coming for you now. But because it never happened that once you get on then the other side where he respects you, then he's like, you're a great mouthpiece for you so anyway, mouthpieces that's the right term with LT. You know, it's interesting too because he fought against his size in a different way. He was just rail thin. LT used to put like change in his pockets on Wigan's the only guy I knew that wanted to weigh more. And he you know, so he constantly fought against that. So I'm sure he was looking for the guys that he still had that um thing going. He's looking for the guys that he could try to pick on. I love that you gave it back to him. It was a perfect segue, perfect segue into the preseason. It was beautiful, right right. Got to give it back to him. So Travis Wingsfield Seth and I you know you met Travis. We do the postgame show, and uh, we always have this debate, the debate about preseason Seth hated. As you can tell, Travis thinks is like a super Bowl. I'm kind of in between, Souse. I know how important it is for guys, you know, to go out there and you know and show off. And you know in the preseason game from the fighting for a position on the squad, was there any specific moment during the preseason that you know that was a real difference maker for you. It was the first play of preseason, actually, so we were playing Pittsburgh the first preseason game, and actually the first was a kickoff, but it went out of the end zone. So my next play was on punt team at a flyer. So it's my first real play that, and there's two guys out there right, it's like, you know, you either get it done or you don't. And these guys they're like Lamar's height, Lamar's mouth, and they're like, white boy, what are you doing? Like you don't belong here? What you know? You belong somewhere else, Like we're going to take you to the to the bench, like there's no way you're making this team. And so in that like five or seven seconds while you're lining up before it snapped, like time kind of slowed down and they kind of pulled the Lamar who was already doing that. But there's two of them, and it was kind of that like you have a decision to make do you belong or don't you? And there's no like talking you either you either get around these guys or it's going to be, you know, the beginning of the end. And something clicked and I ran through one of them, ran around the other one, got create a fair catch and that that started like the next six months of like a zone where you feel like you're unstoppable, it doesn't matter who who's out there, and so that that was that first play where it was like, Okay, I belong it doesn't matter who it is, and the confidence is built from there. Yeah, man, that is what's up man, the confidence right there. Then there's nobody can stop you at that point. I mean, I mean one on one opportunities you get out there's a flyer, not very many, none, you know, once once you start doing well, like you know, it's two at the minimum. That's it at the mineral. I love that talk about it. So he just said creating a fair catch. You were a punt returner for a part of your career. What does that mean for you? What do you see where the flyer? Yeah, you don't want to get knocked out by Trent Gamble is what you don't want. He's got a four to three speed coming at you like a bullet. So you really honestly me as a punt return I used to look up and you know, see the punt. Now I look down and see where the flyers were. Only I look once and if I see a flyer that's already beat my guys, then it's it's automatic fair catch. Depending on hangtime and distance and things like that. So yeah, I probably would have called a lot of fair catches. I love it. I love it so and I'm going off script a little bit here, but as I'm as you're telling me this. So we always do a little prep when we reach out to guys. Hey, Trent's coming on. Trent's coming on. So I reached out to Sean Wooden and I was like, what, hey, what do you got on Trent? It's not a whole lot. He was really about business whatever he said. But he had a chip on his shoulder and I never noticed it because to me, you know, you always smiled whatever, everything was good. Your mom would always call me. She'd come into town twice a year. We go look at pictures for an hour just before you could like email people photo right, and she'd wanted to get the best pictures of her boy, and you know they're busy taking pictures and Joe, there we go. So we would have to go find that forty two and you know we need to let atock. But it's good. So I got to know mom really well. I was like chip on his shoulder. But now as you're sitting here telling these stories, and these guys are out there and they're giving it to you out there like that, and you're you're going to show them. I love it. But I guess you kind of you have to. This is a game that you kind of have to have that tip. You've been known to have a trip on your always still do still have one? Well, you know as a free agent, you know, and that's a little different these days. Like you're you're basically a long shot. So if you're drafted in the second, third, or fourth, you can do okay in camp, but by first what if your first round draft, Well you got yourself four or five years, right, but you know, based on the investment about nine. So I'll give you some credit for that. Sorry, you know. Yeah, and then you got everybody saying I mean when I first walked into the the complex, the very first words were said to me were are you the new punter? I love it? So it was one of the equipment guys. That wasn't Tony, And it definitely wasn't Joe. It was it was someone else. I'm not going to ask im not so I just so I think underestimation was my weapon. If I can wield this and use it for my benefit, then I will. So he's got an episode title right there. Your estimation was my weapon. I love it. Well, you obviously proved yourself overcame the odds made the active roster. As you said, I want to get back to these what was eighteen dbs and now is eight or nine? The guys that were in that room great ballplayers, probably could compete with the defensive line for having the most outrageous personalities in that room as well. You're a pretty conservative, quiet guy. What is it like going to work every day sitting in that room? So who was the dB coach at that time? Was it still Mel Yeah, Jameel Phillips is leading the room and two nine is there now coach Sam Madison, Passer, Tan Brock. What was it like being in the room with those guys outside of the room where you're getting the invites to dB night out, Like, tell us what it was like to be a dB with that crew. He better be on point, you know, because Brock's gonna pull some prank, you steal your helmet, you know, do something like that. You know, there's always gonna be a wrestling match with Sam, and he's got the man strength and the long arms, so like I can wrestle all right, but when he tank, it's like he was not that fast. But you now you know why No, one could ever get off the line, right, because when he gets his hands on you, like it's it's done. So the wrestling matches the constant giving you crap, making you sing, making you buy breakfast, carrying the luggage, Popeye's Chicken on the plane, it's right. Every position group had their own meal pre game or pre flight meal, right, so he had to do the Popeyes. That's great. Well what about did you get the dB night out invite a couple of times? But you know, my margin for air was like so going out eating unhealthy, Like I was just so locked in, you know. So one time they did come out, but I don't know if it was this dB night because I know as it was there. Okay, you know, well there was the Burton Jacks Night where at that point in the season it was just Arturo Freeman and I left his rookies and all the dbs went. And of course we have to pay, right, so everyone orders, you know, steak and lobster and everything else the rookie. But you said so someone bailed out though, Yeah, Brock Brock and well, yeah, they had to pay him to come over here. I think he almost went to Baltimore. Then he came over here too, So yeah, that was just an unbelievable crew and it was kind of like where does fit off the field on the field understood. So the personalities are are one thing, but the ability to transition to be as serious and professional. I think three of them made you know, Sam, Patten and Brock all made Pro Bowl and Brian within a couple of years. So you're on the field with and then you got Zach and JT in front of you, like this is like there's no messing around. So like there's a mess around the locker room and sometimes the meeting rooms and whatever, but you're on the field like you better, you better get it done. It's pretty cool having it now. These wrestling matches, okay, I think you told me they sometimes happened the night before games. Yeah, what was going on? Well, like you're ready to go, they're ready to go, ready to go, they can't wait to hit something. Well, look at me, so I look like someone you want to just like pick on. Right, So the roommates are like, you know, testing and it's like all right, let's go. You know, wait, but these guys are in the hotel were it's a road game. We're in you know wherever Denham, Massachusetts or somewhere. Who's your room? Who did you room with? Well? Ben, but I just plus his last name, Kelly Jeff Ogden a couple. So those are a couple of the earlier ones. But you know, we've got like rud burns and bleeding and it's like, you know, but once you win, like that's not enough. Like it there's not going to let you win and you can't accept losing. So it lasted a little while hilarious. It's like, all right, we've got a game tomorrow, so we think they're all roughed up because they're just getting after it at the game and like all that happened the night before, right after snack Man, right after snack fighting over those chocolate chip cooking. Troy Drake was my roommates, you were, I would take Banklly as my one on one instead of Troy Drayton. You know you mentioned briefly Larry Is. I know he was the special teams captain your rookie year. What was it like playing with Izzo? I mean, and did you ever hang out with him off the field, because was one hell of a care You talk about characters, this character right here had to be very interesting as well, especially your rookie year. Yeah, talk about underestimation, right, So he used that to his benefit. But as slick and clever and intelligent and wiley, you know, as as he was, you know, a great leader and then intense and just you know, always just made play. So following someone like that on the field was pretty special, right. You know, with the guys on offense and defense and special teams we had, we were pretty loaded. So to have him as a guy that's gonna probably should be in the Hall of Fame for Special teams at some point, the most special teams tackles in the history of the NFL. It's pretty impressive. I reached out to is and because I was hoping to get something, but he you know, he's in coach mode now. Yeah, and so he's and the other thing what is though he doesn't text back. He's do you have these friends that leave these six minutes voice to text messages? And so he's like, hey, meetings here or whatever. Yeah, Trent Gamble, smart, tough player, He did everything, and he was like giving me what he would give me if this was a press conference and he was trying not to you know, let anybody know they're making the team. But he had a lot of nice things to say. Well, that's kind of what I did, though. I mean I was a free agent. Just keep your mouth shut and go to work. You haven't earned anything, and every day is the same. I remember Trace Armstrong never said a word to me all camp until the very end, and he's like, I've watched you the whole camp and you've just not said a word. You've gone to work and really respect you. So for a guy like like that, the deal I praise, try and make it. You just you just got to do everything right. I forgot that you played with Trace for so it would have been one year, right, was that two thousand was the end for a lot of a lot of guys had been there, or you know, that was a year Thurman Thomas came down for his his final year. So pretty pretty crazy. It was hard to accept, you know, being a Buffalo buff bill. But our moms were really cool, so I that made it. Yeah, that is too funny. That that is pretty funny. But it's just hearing you say that about Iszoh. Your paths were similar. He was for rice, undersized guy, but I don't know that he was quiet in the corner like I don't, no, no, no person. He might have been a little bit different. No, he he was like a Lamar Thomas in a different way, you know, always talking, always chatting. But I did go, well, maybe I can say this, but you yea, so maybe have been a d dB night. But like I said, was there and some of the other guys. We were at some club down in downtown Fort Lauderdale, and this woman comes up and starts talking to me, and I'm just sitting there, and after about five minutes walks up and goes, that's a dude, you know. So so it didn't even look like it what he could have told me. But he just let me sit there, you know, is he and Zach and everybody else and and Sam and Pat are you know watching watching this unfold? He could have saved me. But you know it's likely I never heard the end of that. I bet you know. You're talking about obviously some fun stuff, man, it's and it is fun. Reminisce about a lot of that stuff, man, But Trent a lot of people talk about And you said yourself that Trent was always about his business, always handled business In fact, late in the season, you handled your business so well against Tampa that you caught the attention to someone else on the sideline. Tell us about that in the tempa. So we'd played Tampa and I was noticing on whether it was kickoff, were running down on kickoff, running down on punt, Like it just wasn't two guys, there were like three always coming at me the whole game. It was like, I don't care send five, I'm still gonna get where I need. And I think I ended up having four or five tackles. And at the end of the game, before he shook the hands of coach wants that, Tony Dungee ran up to me. I was like that, like, we schemed three guys on you, like the whole game and we couldn't stop you. And it's like the hell of a player, what a great game. So I'll never never forget that. Right here about a lot of high phrase from some really big guys. Man's yeah, yeah, not only is he in the Hall of Fame, I think I don't know if he has a vote, but he all that's a Hall of Fame head iconic for a lot of reasons. You know, Yeah, that's pretty cool. And the fact that he did it before, right, because normally the coaches bline for each other. The security directors point out where the coach is, you know, and they go right. So he goes up to the special teams guy and uh, they obviously were talking about you leading up to it, and they didn't deliver on what going to him first. I would have gone to him. I would have gone to Trent first. Two. I don't know that I wouldn't have gone to the head coach first either. That's all I'm secially after a loss. Right, Yeah, well that period, that's a good point that was. It was one of those years just everything was like like a zone. Yeah, yeah, that's really cool. So well, speaking of handling business, I'm going to fast forward a couple of seasons to the two thousand and two season. Two thousand and two, if you remember, the biggest news of two as we trade for Ricky Williams. So everybody's fired up heading to the home opener. Got Detroit here. It's not a divisional right, it's not even conference rivalry, but it doesn't matter. It's run Ricky run. We can't wait to see Ricky. We love when the season opener is also a home opener, and Ricky scores a first quarter touchdown, so he's given the people what they want. And then the game kind of slows down a little bit. And right at the end of the first quarter, I don't know if you remember where I'm going with this, I'm sure you do. The game starts to stall out and so we flip the field. Second quarter, we punt. Mark Royles gets back there. He punts the ball seemingly a routine play, and then something happens. It's probably got to be one of the more memorable moments of your career. It is, so let's go. It was on the sideline and remember Scott McGahan. Oh, I think he may have been out that game. He was heard or something like that. But right before he's like he comes up and is like, like, go make a play man. It's time. So we punted it and the punt returner is tracking the ball. But as a flyer, you've got to get your release. But to do it well, you've got to track the ball. So because the returner may mislead you, take you somewhere else, and the goal is to try and you know, either fair catch or catch it so it doesn't go in the end zone. So touch tracking the ball, you're trying to beat two guys. Yeah, so I have the vice guy on on one hand, but I see the ball, he doesn't recognize it, and the returner's coming over. So I just take the returner and I throw him into the ball right. It hits off of him and rolls towards the end zone and I pick it up and score. So yeah, you know, it was one of those like perfect plays that unfolded. And you know, as a punt returner, you know you have to you have to possess the ball, so it hit perfectly where it rolled in the end zone because you can't you couldn't advance. Off to do is pick it up in the end zone right and ran And the first person that came was JT because JT was still a punt team at the time, you know. And that was psychonic. So still have that ball at home my son's room. Yeah, I love it, and I think Mom's got a picture or too from that as well. Yeah, I remember going through those. I mean that, but that's how many touchdowns had you scored? Did you score at all in college? Not in college, but I played offense in high school, so you know years in college. This is oh two, so this is your third year in the NFL. Score a touchdown in the NFL on special teams in that way is pretty special. So pretty special. I know as a returner, see, I like see. I like what he's saying. He's spotting the ball because for me as a returner, I'm spotting that flyer and if he's looking at the ball, I'm trying to get him. Could you you could do it back then? You can't do it. Now you can do it sort of, you just can't head hunt. It's like, I'm gonna get this flyer back. I'm gonna you know, I'm not gonna fair catch. I'm just gonna take it. So when did that change? Because that was like you were known for that. He you. I don't mean to make a glamorize it, but you knocked a couple. Try. I tried to get I tried to get some get back every once in a while. When did they start When did they start changing the helmet to helmet and some of those side blocks. I don't know, man, this maybe two thousand and five, six seven after I was done. So you had to be aware of that of the guy that was looking that wasn't just a quick returner, but a guy that might have had a little chip on his own shoulder. But yeah, bit, yeah, a little bit. They'd already gotten me in the game. I got to get them back. I get it. So the next year, two thousand and three, was your fourth from final year, but it was not without challenges. My man talk about what you dealt with that season. So I had just signed a new four year contract, but at the beginning of that training camp, it was clear that the final safety spot was going to come down to Scott McGahan or I, And then we'd become really close. And I'll just go back when I was like twelve, right, So I think I was in fifth grade and they had this like school race, and we were all practicing in pe like every day, and my friend and I were the fastest two kids, and all the practice runs we'd finished like the same. So we'd made a pact like we'll just when we come around the corner, we'll just finish together, right, But winning and competition was like kind of like an identity in a bad way, you know, like I'll feel good about myself if I win stuff like that. So the race day comes and we're ahead, and we come around the corner and I decided to speed up. The pack was out. I broke the pack, so he speeds up, and then now we're racing to the finish line. Of course I lose, right, you lose a friend, you lose the medal. And it's like, man, you know this, this desire to compete is like conflicting, but it's also what helps you become what you've become. So now it's my fourth year and to start a camp and it's coming down to he and I. It's like, I'm in the exact same situation I was twenty five years earlier. And so we make a pack as an adults, right, and it's like, you know, well, let's just do this right. You know, we'll share the reps. And however it unfolds, it unfolds, and we did do it right, and we had a great, you know, training camp. And the fear or the worry of making it was like, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna do this the right way this time regardless, this is who I want to be. And I ended up making it. He ended up signing with Tennessee. And so the year goes on and now we go up to Tennessee to play Tennessee and I'm running down on punt and the returner goes left and I'm getting blocked from the right. My knee plants and you know, everything's gone, get carted off the field. But after the game, I'm on the bus and the first person on the bus is Scott McGary. Oh wow. Right, So it was a tough year, you know, everything ended. But that's what I remember most of redeeming something that happened so long ago, and that unfolding and kind of the bookend when I had got hurt, like the relationship was was still intact, you know, regardless of a metal at stake versus a million dollars, you know, a million, you know in terms of that. So but that that was hard. You know, it was one of those laying on the field. And the first person that came up on the field was Junior Saale because it was a transition from you know, punt team to defense. So he kind of shook his head and said I'm sorry, and I looked at my knee and was like, you kind of have some tears is like this is like this feels like this might be yet like I felt, you know, I didn't stop. I I rehabbed and tried to come back, but it was it was that feeling of like, you know, is this really has this really over? Been doing it forever, you know, and that sadness came. But I bet all that reflection, even the idea that you're thinking back to that fifth grade race when you're competing for a job in the NFL, as you said twenty something years later, that's that's wild that you and you like, did you actually is that a reflection that you're having now? As obviously you were an adult then, but you become a different kind of adult when you're done and you have a family and everything else. Is that reflection that you realize now or in that moment were you thinking about that fifth grade I was thinking about it because I think the character of how you handle everything, you know, determines your success. So I had done things the right way since the time I was a rookie year, and there was there was a just an opportunity to like this is a hard one, you know, like there's a lot at stake. But that came that flashed up. You know, forward is like, here's who I am. And if it's not enough, and it's not enough, and that's okay, I can live with that. But I'm gonna I'm gonna do it different because I want to be a different person, you know, and the only way to I think sustained success is what's inside. So the adversity was a great opportunity, you know, even though you know what, eight weeks later, I blew up my knee and that was it. You know, it's okay. One's not attached to the other. No, No, they're not. Adversity is Opportunity is something we hear around here a lot now with the current head coach, who also grew up kind of close to where you're from. But we'll get to that. So do you and Scott stay in touch to this day? Yeah, we stay in touch here and there. We've he's he's off in Texas and you know, everyone has their own lives, but especially four or five years after I you know, I'd go to Texas and spend time with them and you know, things like that. But so you're able to preserve they that's really cool. It is cool speaking of you know, having your own lives. And again I'm going off script here a little bit, but I have to bring it up. So when I Trent and I were talking yesterday, I just want to touch base. Actually he reached out to me. He's like, are we doing this thing tomorrow? Oh, I'm sorry, Tent. I'm you know, Jat's got me working. But so I called him, and I'm hearing all this stuff in the background, juice, and you're at your son's high school football So he's a freshman now. So he's at his son's high school football game, and like this game is starting, Like I hear the PA announcer and I'm hearing all this stuff and so trying, you know, and we're hearing now. Trent's a soft spoken guy and he's talking. He's like, okay, that sounds good, and okay, that time whatever. And then all of a sudden, you hear someone screw like the whole crowd screams and a touchdown right, and he goes, oh, my son just caught a forty yard touchdown past I was like, wow, that's I kind of expected it again, household lot, So tell us what's that like, because I know you did some coaching at the high school level and everything else. What's that like now having to everything that you did to get there and then paying it for coaching, and now going as a fan and cheering your son on in the same way that your parents cheered you want. It's been pretty cool because that you know, for a while he didn't want to play football, and that was fine, Like you don't have to. You don't have to go down that road, you know, with nine surgeries and shoulder replacements and whatever. If you want to do it, then like you better be the hammer versus the nail, Like this is a sport, Like you just can't go. Let me try this out and see how it goes, Like you better be ready. So he didn't really want to start playing until his you know, his eighth grade year, seventh grade year. So so I started working with him on offense, defense, just going through everything. And last year was his first year in pads and and then came up to Toboca and he's, uh, he's doing really well. You know. We I started lifting with him for you know, for a long time. So, so I I cook all the meals. I'm the medic at home that so, so I'm in behind the scenes, like all, you know, all fit home and send notes and we'll watch film and I'll take you to the field. But once the game starts, I'm in the stands and and that's good. There's a lot that goes into it, you know the game. I mean it was the first drive. Was it the opening drive? Yeah? He had a couple of touchdowns, should have had three. Yea. It was one of those like it was one of those games. You know, does you speed? Yeah, So he's upset because he has my speed, but he also has my so he's only like five seven, and he's like distraught like that. He's not gonna, you know, be like six foot. He's like, you know, because I'm you know, my dad was like six four, and my grandfather on my mom's side like six three. So there's only a few shorter people on our whole, both sides, and it happens to be me, my mom, my grandmother, and my son. So he's he's not having speed, speed man. So he's uh, he's a good little player, you know, he's cool. So he's got left to figure it out. Very cool. Well, we're gonna get you out of here soon, so you know, I know your folks are here and you have a good time, but uh, we have to put you through the fish tank two minute drill. You're a fast guy, the four to three speed. You can handle a fast moving segment here. I love it. I love looking in their eyes when I say, you'll be okay, we're gonna throw. We're gonna so Mike's got two minutes on the clock. There, we're gonna put We're gonna just throw some questions at you. You answer him as you may. We'll have a little fun with this segment. Then we'll get you out of here. Sound good, Ready, I'm ready, ready to go. You attended Ponderosa High School in Parker, Colorado, which is just twenty seven minutes away from Smoky Heel High in a rural Colorado. You know what current Miami Dolphin is a Smoky Heel grad. How do you not what I thought? Maybe to blow it good coach Mike mcdegigells, Mike McDaniel, I'm slow, aren't I? You gave me all? Oh that's too funny. All right, So more dolphins and Trent gamble is that he got excited when he said Smokey Hill, did you guys ever face each other? No? We were in separate leagues, but there was I know a few people that have gone there. So it's like, okay, what am I missing? We go? Yeah? Absolutely so, all right, more Dolphins in Trent Gamble history. You are one of only two Dolphins ever in the history of this franchise out of the University of Wyoming. Do you know who the other one is? Jim kick that one? All right? What is the biggest gamble Trent Gamble is ever taken? Football life? Whatever? Oh, I thought that was the answer. So I know this is a two minutes dril. So the very first time, the very first preseason game against Pittsburgh, after that one play and that was blocking someone, end up tearing my shoulder in the first preseason Yeah, I went to the trainer the next day. I said, I think something's wrong, and he's like, well, let's just wait till after the season to get an MRI. Right. Well, I'm a free agent. I'm not going to make the team, right, So that was the decision is like do I get surgery or do I do I take you know, you know, put a brace on and take a shot and keep going. So I think that was probably the biggest decision of like so if I go get surgery, my shoulder may be okay. But like, as a free agent, you got one shot. So I decided to you know, go move forward and had a great year and had you know, had a career. But that was that was the gamble. That was you know, gambles gam I love it all right, last question. We spoke a lot about your speed throughout this interview. Okay, four three speed. Everybody likes hearing that if all the defensive backs that you ever played with, if you guys all lined up in your prime and there was a race, all the guys we just we named them all, who would come in first? Well me, that's what I'd like to hear that. Two minutes It's like not there was no there was like he thought about he knew he was absolutely about those dvs. When I saw the question, I was like, man, he definitely fasted all those Yeah, they all had different strengths they did. Now we can punch and kick and hit on the right, run right, yeah, whatever it takes to get to the end there. So you still like you if you if all if it's no holds barred, no, my son wants to race and it's like my my, running and everything days are over. I've got about ten seconds to wrestle you if you want it, if you want it, and that's about. Don't wrestle them the night before a game though, Okay, all right, just don't do that. That was a wise decision. You got to be tough. Yeah, you have to be tough, but you also have to be available, right, like save that for like tuesdays. Oh that's good. So this was awesome. Man. I know you're spending the day, your family's in town and everything, but appreciate you hanging out with us for a little bit and it was really cool to catch up. Thanks for asking. I'm glad to be here. Good to reminis, no doubt. Thanks for diving in. Thanks you're now diving just like JUW said. Thanks for diving into the fish Tank presented by iHeartRadio. 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