Lamar Miller: I Just Needed a Little Crease

00:00:00 Speaker 1: You're now diving. I'm gonna have been that picture who being down with Steth Living Oh, Jay Juice, Well, and this is strictly for the number one of course, y'all. This ain't the other never sports talk that might have been that pitch tank. Welcome back to the fish tank right here on the Miami Dolphins Podcast Network, Seth Lovitt and the man with the best hands in the podcast business, O J. McDuffie, Juice, Look at this place, man, he except we're moving on up we are. I am right, George got George though. That's work it it works for you, Damn. I'll take it. If it gets me here, I'll take it. Maybe it has something to do with the guests that's in here. Lamar Miller dives into the fish tank. Lamar, how you feeling man, I'm feeling good. How about yourself? Feeling great? Man? Yeah? We're like do he seem like kids on Christmas Day that just got new toys? Right? Nice building? You know everybody's side there, Yeah, pretty good. A little different than Davy right right? Yeah? Yeah, they definitely they stepped it up. You know what, you know, these young and big sass. They didn't go Saint Thomas. Wait a minute, they didn't go to the the same time they talk about bad You know, Davy Davy was state of the art when I went there. Man, well it was because it had just been built in nineteen ninety three year, a rookie year. So how but you were in Saint Thomas for how long? That's not the point was I was there for a mini camp. A mini camp. He's talking about how tough it was. Days building three days are roughing it. Man, Well we're in a brand new studio. It's exciting and we got a lot to talk about because your journey here with Miami Dolphins was was a fun one and a fast one. Yeah, Joe, Yeah, Literally, this is like the year of the running back for this team. It's a you know, I don't know if you've been watching this current team, but Raheem Moster just tied Ricky Williams record for most touchdowns by a running back in a single season for the Miami Dolphins with sixteen. It's got eighteen total touchdowns. Is incredible. You got the on eh Han that's doing all kinds of crazy stuff as well. And you were a bit of a home run hitter yourself, So like have you. Is it fun for you to watch this current team and see what the running backs are doing? Yes, I was just out the game on Monday. Oh man, Yeah, I pretty much watch every Dolphin game. Oh yeah, I keep trying. You know. Men right here we still talk every now and damn just often. They very explosive. Wait a minute, did I just miss that? Was he here? Because because he was here for a hot second? Was it during your tenure? Yes, I think it was my third year here. My god, he was a rookie. Well the research department. Unfortunately it's me. I'm about to be fired. So Raheem moster, it's rookie season. You were here, Yes, and here he is all these years later and has eighteen touchdowns right now, he's doing four games to go, right, He's doing great. You know. He's very explosive, fast guy, no aggressive. Yeah, to be a little guy. And I think both of them doing greats are to be honest. Yeah, they both have a little guy. They say. Raheem's like one of the strongest dudes pound for power on the whole squad. Yeah, well, you have to be when you're a little guy. A little guy. Is he a little guy? He's not really little. I'm just saying he's not like a two toy. He's not the guy who was on the other side, right, Yeah, that guy understood well, I mean, guys are that guy though? Yeah? Freaking nature. But you know, Lamar, we had Olivia Bernon on the show and we said he should be called mister three oh five. But then we look at you, like because he went, you know, he went to high school colleagues, played for the Dolphins. But then we look at you and maybe you should be mister three oh five because you did the same thing high school colleagues at the you played for drafted by the Dolphins. Man, talk about what it is like like growing up down here in South Florida playing football. Because I'm an Ohio guy. We think we got good. We know we have good. I know, I know, I know, I know, don't look Ohio. But since I've been down here, I've learned that Ohio is, you know, third or fourth in the in the country when it comes to football. Talk about growing up playing football down here. Of course, playing for the Doghins. Growing up here is a big deal. People started playing football at a young age here. I know me, I started when I was seven, I was a guy who was kind of behind. You know, at seven, were already yes, And I was more of a bigger guy growing up. I remember my first year playing football. I was supposed to play with like eighty pounds, but no, I supposed to play seventy five pounds. But I was playing with eighty five pounds and I was seven, and I was playing with guys who eight and nine. So I was behind the eight ball with them guys. So that's what he's going rahiem a little guy. By the way, I'm like, you were five to ten, but he's talking about little guys because you still think you're seven years old playing with eighty five pounds right right. It was just crazy, So I was kind of behind. I was like kind of scared, but you know, it go about so fast, and I'm playing football here in high school going in, didn't know what to expect. I thought I was good in football. I didn't know I was good until you know, you play against like older guys or people in high school. And then once they moved me up to varsity, I was like, okay, I have a chance to make it to college or playing in the NFL. So I started taking it like real serious and yeah, and everything just playing out pretty good. Yeah. Was it you automatic for you? Or were there other schools you were entertaining? But I know that you had to be Yeah, everything games, right. I always wanted to go to Miami. That was a no brnner for me. But my mom, she's from Gainsville, so she wanted me to go to Florida. So I was like I was just out there, like just like, Okay, my mom want me to go to Gainsville. So I'm just yeah, I just took a visit. We think we got a shot, and it was just you going to see mom. Yeah, I'm just going to like we'll go We'll tak a visit, go see some games, but my mom should go see her family and stuff. I really didn't want to go to Gainsville. That's when they had urban mind. But it was pretty good. Man won a couple of national right, right, that was good around that time, So it was kind of it was kind of hard. My mom was like, no, we're going to Gainsville. My dad he wanted me to go to Miami. Frank Gore he's right down my back yard. So I'm like, Frank Gore went to Miami, and so that was like the way for me to tell my mom, like, look, Frank Gore, he's a couple of minutes away and he made it to the NFL. So I want to do the same, right right, So okay, cool, we could we could try it out. So we worked out for you. I want to take a step back because you talked about high school Miami killing high she was he had seventeen hundred plus yards as a senior, twenty two touchdowns. How many touchdowns you have your senior year? About that? It was? I just want to make sure to count. Sure could be off. Yeah. My point is that you know two productive guys. I had twenty one offensive touchdowns my return return or or intercepts and returns or anything like that. So what's the total? Eighty one total in three years in high school? And you stopped at eighty one? Eighty one for a reason. All right, So we understand it's a hard football. It wasn't. Wasn't Florida football. It's little different, yeah, a little easier. Yeah, this is true. But but as you said, so Frank Gore, and it goes beyond Frank Gore. The history of being a starting running back at the University of Miami. I mean that is that's a big deal. That's a big deal. What was that like for you? So you choose to go there, I think your red shirt your freshman year, but you ultimately become the starter. And is there is there like pressure to live up to the expectations of what the starting running back in the University of Miami is supposed to be. It's always pressure, like just going to Miami because you've got to hold that legacy as a University of Miami guy. And you know the running bats that went through there, It's like you have a lot of good ones. So you know when I even when I first got there, right even when I got there, you know, we had Javaris James and Greg Cooper, they was like the main guy, so you know, just learning from them guys, and it was just like when I get the opportunity, I just got to take advantage of it. And you know, my first year of restaurant, it was kind of like tough on me because I was like I could play kick returning something right something, We're like, damn, I should have gone the games. I still remember when cause the first game we played Florida State. We played them on Labor Day, so it was a it was a big game, man. I remember the running back coach was like, just stay by me. I'm gonna put you in the game. So you know, as a young guy, I'm right behind a coach. Everywhere he goes, I'm right behind it, like the guy carries the car right right. And then I say it was a close game, I'm like it was like the third quarter. I'm like, man, he's not for to put me in. So I ended up going on the opposite side and just watching the game, just cherish in the moment. But yeah, man, just the legacy of the running back, it's pressure. I remember my second year I was playing, but I wasn't like playing a lot. We had other guys and just seeing that every week they're holding you accountable to like pretty much at Miami, the running backs like you gotta be that guy. Yeah. So just seeing what Damion and Barry Javaris James and Greg Cooper was going through and how they prepared throughout the week, it was like, Okay, I gotta be on my my eight game every week. Did any of the alumni ever cut like, you know, did Drin James drop in. Did did Willis McGahee like, did those guys ever come back and say, hey man, there's there's an expectation here, Like not really they they really didn't like say the expectation like they'll come back doing like spring ball, they'll come watch you, but you know when they come you're like, oh, I gotta put let let them know that. You know, we got some guys over here, but they never like pressure you up to do anything or like, oh you gotta uphold this legacy or anything. It's just once you step in, like on campus, you got you already know, like the legacy here you gotta do on your A game. Yeah, I was like, wonder like even though recruiting trips, you know, other running backs come in. You know, I had some wide receivers at certain colleges that didn't want me coming there because I was I was a threats right, absolutely, So how was how was your reception numbers on your recruiting trips with some of these guys especially you obviously had some great backs. Are there, hell you're threatening their position? Possibly? Yeah? I mean you know, I'm from Miami, so we love competition. So my whole monsel was to go on there to compete, and you know, them guys when I came in, they really didn't think it was the threat. They they helped me because you know, high school you have like ten plays, but going into college you got a whole playbook, so it's like right, right, So once I got there, you know, them guys helped me pretty mu us because I really didn't know all the places like that, so that was helping me. And at the end of the day, we was there for one come ago that was trying to win the national championship. So it wasn't really like dang this guy for to come take my position or it was just like, hey, we got to get better and it made everybody better to be honest, no doubt about the competition. But it's iron c We hear that a lot all the time. Right. Let's talk about your draft experience a little bit. You came out early, really on a couple of years that the U playing at that high level. The Dolphins, you know, giving you any vibe they were looking at the draft because we had ov On here, and I mean ov was talking about me. We hadn't had a Dolphin drafted in years. You know, the Hurricane, I think I think drafted a hurricane in years and you know Vernon Carey and then you know, so you got the vibe that they were looking at you that way. To be honest, during the whole draft process, it was crazy for me. And then I met I met with the combine, met with Jeff Nixon, the running back coach. We was in the cafeteria and he came and put some paper in front of me and we were doing like a little test. And then we had like a Miami Day when like all the guys from Miami come out here and work out. Yeah, and I worked out here and Jeff Allen, the GM at the time, he called me up to the office. He was like, he was like I looked good. He was like, you know, we we drafted a running back last year. So the whole time they drafted Daniel tom And then I'm like, man, y'all got Reggie Bush. Y'all drafted Daniel Thomas. So my mom, I'm like, they're not going to draft me. And then he was just saying like if I'm there and they looking for a running back, they're draft me. But at that time, I was like he just he's just telling me stuff. What's the point of calling you up and to say, you know, we drafted a running back like you brought me here. I don't understand. I find that curious. Well, you know, I guess they wanted to put some some things out there, some people so the other teams. So that's what he's doing. He's throwing something there that maybe the mar I don't think Miami because they already said they is that really possible agent the agency? Well, Dolphins. You know, we talked about the U N draft guys coming here to Dolphins. We talked about how it was a while but that same year they took o V in the third round, you in the fourth round. How nice was it? Man? You be playing the same stadium that you know, you you killed it with the U. I mean you were, you were home at home the whole time. It was great, you know for me. You know, once they called me, I was like nine five because at the time I had I have two I have two phones and system. And I looked at my phone. I didn't know what to I didn't know if it was a Dolphins. I thought it was just somebody calling me. And then I picked up the phone and then it was a Dolphins. I'm like, dang. So then I told my mom they was happy. And then just playing here in front of the pretty much all the young fans are pretty much Dolphin fans for the most part, so and just playing in the stadium, it was like I'm still home. And then my family my friends continued to see me play football here. It was great. You know, Oh man, they go by so fast. You're like, but it was great. Man. I had a great time here. You know. The fans always was good. Yeah, a lot of love. Did you grow up a Dolphins fan? Like, did you root for the team growing up? So, growing up, I used to always watch the Dolphins, but I really didn't have a team. I just used to like players. But I was a big Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown fan, so I used to always Washington. That's when they had a little Wildcat, a little Wildcat packer. So I used to always watch them every Sunday. But I was never like a Dolphin fan or just like the game, like the game, like the certain players. That makes sense. Only biggest problem with your playing at home though, is tickets right right right? I mean you talk about you like playing in front of your friends and family, damn that demand had to be pretty high. But no, no, it was definitely hot. I used to always tell people to call my mom. I'd be like, call my mom, and then my mom she'll call me and be like, hey, what did you think? And then I'd be like yes and no. But I got to be the bad badge, was a bad person. I love it. People think that you guys get them for free because you play for the team, but like, you know, I'm paying for I'm paying. It's like I think, did you get I don't remember? Did you get two free tickets too? You pay for and then anymore it's additional, right right, right, So it's like for sure I knew like every game I used to have a setting number like ten. Yeah, you know, but some game, if it's a big game, I do more. But I used to always tell people to call my mom. Right, my mom will take care of me. Let her figure out who's getting from the town. She controlled those tens. That makes sense. That makes sense. So let's talk about that running room. You mentioned the names they had just taken Daniel Thomas, and they have Reggie Bush and Reggie you know, there's a lot that comes with Reggie Bush. On and off the field. Did you grow up watching him? Oh? Most definitely. I remember I just in my room he was at USC. I just had like pictures right in my rooms. He was like he was like more than just a player, right, He was kind of I want to say, cult hero, but he was a cultural phenomenon in a lot of ways beyond just lay all that and then you know his whole life off the field as well. Right, So now you're sitting in a room with him, Like, what was what was that like? Going from Okay, I'm MIMMI killing high school. Three years later, I'm sitting with Reggie Bush and we're trying to learn plays together. What was that experience? Like? It was a great experience, you know me because I used to always look up to Reggie, So to be in the same room with him and he was in the league for a while, I was just trying to soak up a lot knowledge from him. They even put my locker right next to him, so it was like I was just asking him a lot of questions. I know he probably like man, he asked a lot of questions, But it was like I was just trying to understand the game a little bit more. And see what he do to like take care of his body and stuff like that. So it was like he used to give me a little like knowledge on things that he do to to stay a long season for the most part, because you know, you play sixteen games. When I was playing, there's there's a lot of games. As a running back said, your position right, right right, so high contact position, right. So I was just I was just asking him a lot of questions and just trying to pick his brain to you know, translated to my game to help me. Yeah. And was he I always wonder because again, Reggie off the field, social media, the whole, the Kardashian all that thing, that stuff. But was he hyper focused? I think I think sometimes people question if you've got all this other stuff going on, what kind of a professor was he? But it sounds like if you were picking his brain, his commitment to his craft was still really hot. Yeah. No, he was here, very committed. You know. He used to after practice, he used to always like do extra conditioning, working on his routes with Tenne Hill catching the ball on the jug. So stuff like that. I just to just like I used to be watching from him far but saying what he's doing. But he took football very serious. He took care of his body. I mean, he didn't do a lot of stuff like taking care of his body at the facility because he had his own things. I'm his whole team, right, But I was just just looking at him, saying what he's doing at the practice. I'm like, Okay, this what the NFL running backs supposed to. Did you start to implement some of those things in your own Yeah, not exactly when he was down. Waited to him, I like that, but how many years? So then I started doing that after. That's hilarious. Good, that's good. So Seth alluded to the fact that we had some some home run hitters at the top of the show. But you know, you're always known as the explosive guy. We all know that, but we didn't know just how explosive until one day in twenty fourteen, December twenty eight to be exact, twenty fourteen. You know, we're hosting the New York Jets right here at hard Rock Stadium, and after a gold line stand, we take the ball to three yard line and you know, we're backed up. Usually when teams are backed up, the thing they want to do really is just trying to give them wiggle room, you know, and so using a simple run play, what we thought was a simple run play, but instead instead this twenty one year old running back burst for a ninety seven yard touchdown out of it it break and Keith, you know, I played with Keith, Keith Byers, and he remember the snow angel in Dallas. That was a seventy seven yard We hadn't seen anything more than that ever in Dulghon too until you did that. Talk about that play man and how you know what that meant to you. It looked like you were exhausted at the end. I was tired. I was dead, but straight sprint. Yeah. I remember the time Pounce Pounce was the center. It was like just hit it and I was like, okay, I just need a little crease. And I remember whatever Tenne Hill has sent me in motion to come back to the other side. And then I seen a little crease. So I was like, okay, I just got to outrun everybody. And that's what I did. After that player, I was I was because I didn't run like that and so long. It's like, you know, during the season, like you're not running full speed like the whole ninety seven yard run. So it was like for me, I was like, please don't get get caught. I was looking, I was looking on the jo, looking at I was looking at it. I was looking, and I seen somebody coming. I'm like, I only got a couple more yards keep, but I was definitely wounded. I would have never made it ninety. I would act like I pulled a hamstering or something. But wait a minute. You know you would have grabbed a hammer. Yeah, the sniper didn't matter, man left right, but you had so like you had punk returns that you went to the distance. Yeah, ninety seven ninety I caught a punter of three yard line. I probably wouldn't have a job. That's a good. Same time, you're like, yeah, kickoff return, yeah, ninety yarder? Okayn? Is that what? Well? It sounds like it was those last handful of yards that you were most concerned about, right. I think I got to the twenty and I just keep running. Oh my god, when the head gets back to right, right, right, break, break, break everything out the one though. It looked good to me, and then a year later you're doing it again. So now we're playing the Houston Texans, and second quarter you catch a screen pass and you go fifty four and the next thing you know, you're running eighty five yards to pay dirt. I mean, you had a huge game against the Texas, probably the type of game that that made you a lot of money. Come right, So talk about it. If you do it once, okay, it's pretty cool. But you start doing it and it becomes a friend, it's not a fluke anymore. Right, What what was it like, man to that kind of became your signature that you were a guy that could that could hit the home run. Yeah, you know, coming out ever since college, a lot of people call me a home run hitter. And you know, we were playing when we played the Texans, it was raining, and I think Jarvis had a good run, Like he caught the ball and he made a couple of guys mess. I'm like, it was just a good days. I'm like, man, I gotta do something, you know, keep up with him, right right, right? So you know when I caught the screen, it was like, I mean it was pretty much open. You know, everybody did a great job. It didn't run. It was just like pretty much just trying to make a guy miss. Make a big play and that that day. Overall, I just think we was feeling good as a team. I know I was feeling good. We're going to talk about that, you know. You know, as a player, you have those days like Okay, I'm feeling good today. Yeah, and that was just one of them days. Yeah. I think one d and seventy five yards. Yeah, it was unbelieved another sixty something receiving. So, I mean, you were killing it. But I always find it funny when a guy goes off like that and next thing you know, he signed a big free agent deal. Did they talk about it when you went in for your they're going to talk about it. They didn't give you the Jeff Ireland speech. No, No, they didn't know right now. They didn't talk about it. They just when they when my agent called me, I wanted to stay home. So I was trying to debate, like what I wanted to do it. But I know Houston they had like Aaron Foster at the time. I was like, I want to get a lot of carries. So I was like, So I was going back and forth, and then I was just like my agent was like, I can't talk to them until my free agencies, right, So the agent. He followed the rules, right. So I ended up talking to them and they were just saying that they like how various they like it now right, us, I love it. So I just end up decided going there. And you know, it was a great experience over there because I was in Miami my whole life. So maybe a change up will be you know, it's different. Oh said the same thing, like he didn't want to leave. He didn't want to leave it, and he's like, man, I really have never left right to see the world a little bit, right, right, So it's interesting. Well, you know it didn't start right there in two thousand. Actually, yeah, this time you're actually playing for the text we talked about, and you rip off another ninety seven yard become the first player in the NFL history to have ninety plus yard touchdown runs from two different teams, and then obviously the only person in history to have ninety five plus yard runs you know, from teams. Man, I mean that's picking them up and putting them down. Man, we talked about this earlier. Man, at this point where you you were better condition to go ninety seven a couple of years later. No, really, you know, I was a little older. Yeah, that was like a much later, right right. I was. I was a little older too, so you know that time I'm in my total office in line, I was just like, I just I was miked up that game too, and I was just like, yo, I just need a little crease, just give me something to work with. But I didn't think I was gonna go ninety seven yard. I was like, okay, I'll probably get us ten yards or whatever. The case made right, right, right, So you know that happened. And then the whole time I was running because I had got caught, like I think like two weeks before that I had got caught. I could have it could have been like seventy eighty yard testdown. So with that whole week through practice, everybody was like, oh, he's old, he gonna get caught. So that when I was running on that one, I was just like, just keep running, you can't get caught. And then I seen Jackson from Tennessee Ty. I seen him coming here running five and then I'm like, oh, I just keep running, just keep running, and then I ended up getting it, So I mean it was good. Did you know it's gonna be a record at that time? Did you know you were on the cusp of breaking making history. Do you even know how it's a record? Yeah, I've seen if somebody. Somebody tweeted it and I seen it. It It was like a couple of years ago, and I said, I think after Derrick Henry ran like ninety nine or something like that. I seen it, but at that moment I didn't know it was it was. I couldn't catch it, think about records, just trying to breathe. Well, I'm gonna back up a little bit. I'm gonna take it back to the Dolphins. And so you're drafted in twenty twelve. Yes, your rookie year. It was also the rookie year for the head coach. It was Joe Philbin's first year, and really your his tenure and yours ran parallel for a while. I don't want to pick on anybody, but so seven to nine year one, eight and eight, eight and eight, and Philbin's reputation was kind of like the school teacher, you know, he kind of a calm demeanor, make sure the locker room's clean, that kind of stuff, and the whole thing. And then in his final season, he starts one and three and the team makes a decision and he's relieved of his duties and then the man Campbells show shows up. Dan Campbell steps he's elevated to be the head coach, and it's like, you want to talk about cult hero those first two three weeks he's got you guys doing Oklahoma drills and what I can't think of? You talk about juxtaposition, like to go from Philbin to Campbell and we see a lot about what he's doing now in Detroit. What was that transition like for you? Because this is all you had known. All you had known was Joe Philbin style of head coaching. What was that like when it was the doors in? It was real different to be honest. You know, Dan Kemer, he is an old school football player, so and he played a game, so he knew what what it took to win. It was like I remember my first practice. It was it was full practice and we had he called everybody up, and everybody we think he about to give us a speech, Like okay, he could give us a speech. So then he called, right, he called two people up. I forgot who the two people are. Clearly you were. It was like, okay about it. Back up and then we seen doing Oklahoma drill like what I know. For me, I'm like, I haven't done this since like high school, right, So it was it was just a culture shock to everybody. And then you know, we started winning, so he kept doing that like every right, we kept doing that every Wednesday, So it was like he bought it into the locker room. So everybody had that that mindset like, Okay, we're gonna be playing old school football. You gotta be physical. And we were winning games, so everybody was buying into what he was trying to install instilled in us. So you know, it was good, but it was it was definitely for me, it was it was a coature change. For a question about that, because you know, we thought that that might wear off with players, you know when you do stuff like that Oklahoma drills at that level. But seemed like it's still working for him. Whatever he's doing in Detroit is still working. So I mean, I love Dan Campbell was as a as a coach here, but I wasn't doing Oklahoma drills, you know, So do you think it's still you think he still got that going on in Detroit? I don't know, I know, I know, even like when we were like the older guys were like, you know, guys who eight years plus, like I don't want to do that, right, But it was just like all the younger guys are like, Okay, it's fun, Like we're going to do it. You know, I can put my starting running back right right right. So it was like it was I think he probably still do that. I don't know, but I know when when he did it here, it was like all the young guys who was like, you know first like like rookie till the fifty year, that was like all into it. But the older guys was like especially like right right, especially like like mid season, like when you hit hit week twelve thirteen, your body started to break down a little bit. Everybody was like, man, everybody else people start right right. I don't call my man Homer Simpson me or you kind of fat. The bushes call me, oh man, Okay, we're gonna let you get out of here real soon. Man. But you know, teams usually throw during the two minute drill, but we know it doesn't matter what you We had a ninety seven yard or waiting to has got this home run hereter man, So what we're gonna do. We're gonna take it through the fish tank. Two minute drill. All right, we're gonna put two minutes on the clock. We'll hit you with some quick hitting questions and no fancy clock here, even though the studio you know, so there it is. This is gonna be. It's fun, man, some fun questions and you know we'll we'll try to We're gonna try to score in two minutes here, Do we can get it down? Said? If he can get a crease ready, read the bar? Question number one? All right. You reached pay dirt forty times in your career. Twenty two of those touchdowns is to Miyi Dolphin, and you celebrated most of them with a salute. What was the meaning behind the touchdown celebration? The salute? Pretty much, every time I scored, I was salute until my mom and dad felt like everything they did from me and my sister growing up, and I just saluted them because I just knew what it took, you know, my mom working two jobs, my dad working over time just to provide for me and my sister. So I just saluted to them every time I swen a testown. I love that. I love it all right. Later in your career, I guess after Reggie Bush left the locker room. But at some point in your career you took up yoga and pilates into your training, right to keep your body healthy. What is more difficult one hundred yard wind sprints in South Florida heat or a South Florida hot yoga session. Oh, I'll say, I'll say the sprints, okay, especially if that guy's chasing. All right, all right, we mentioned earlier that your Dolphin coach with Joe Philben and Dan Campbell, and your Hurricane coaches were Randy Shannon and our Golden If a spades game broke out and you had to pick one of your former coaches as a partner and had to play against the two others, who is your partner? Who are you playing against? And how many books are you good for? I'll say Dan Campbell, I'll play with Dan, your partner, He'll be my partner. Play against I'll say, uh, Joe Philber And maybe I'll go, oh, man, you good for? I'm good for at least I'll say like five, right, five? And Dan Campbell? I love that. Give me Dan Campbell on there. Okay, So the final question here, you say you watch every Dolphins game. These Miami Dolphins are loaded with speed. You got the Cheetah, You've got Devon h Chan, you got Raheem, you got Jayleen Waddle. Give me Lamar Miller in his prime. All five of you guys line up. Where do you stack up against that fo some five fast guys, right, I'll come top top three for sure, top three out of the five. There it is. That's the two minute trail. He's Lamar Miller. I don't know, man. I think if he's got a crease, God, that would be fun to watch. Oh, man, I don't know them guys. It is a whole different level. Right, You don't go ninety seven If you're not faster, No, somebody's gonna walk you down. Somebody's gonna walk you don't do it twice right, ninety seven, ninety seven, eighty five. It's the top two here in Dolphins history. Ninety seven and eighty five. I think you had some wheels to my friend. Yes, so well, I appreciate it. I didn't realize we're not quite neighbors, but I didn't realize that we were living so close. And uh, I'm glad that we were able to get your number and that you actually took my call, because not everybody does that. No, actually, you know what, they stopped taking my call once they get to know me. Maybe that's been the problem, but it was awesome to have here. Thanks for having me, Thanks for diving Lamar, No problem, you're now diving just like JUW said. Thanks for diving into the fish Tank presented by iHeartRadio. Be sure to follow us on whatever streaming platform you're using, and don't be afraid to rate the show or leave us a comment. We love your feedback, and remember you can find us, as well as Drive Time with Travis Wingfield and all of our international partners on Miami Dolphins dot com