Lorenzo Bromell: Baby

00:00:00 Speaker 1: You're now diving that gonna have been that peak who sitting down with Seth living Oh Jay, And this is strictly for them true fans Dolphins number one of course, y'all. This ain't the other never sports talk that might have been that. Welcome Back to the fish Tank, presented by iHeartRadio right here on the Miami Dolphins Podcast Network, Seth Lovitt and the man with the best hands in the podcast business, Oj McDuffie juice. You know we haven't said this in a while, but we are in the wingfield living room. I don't know how much long we're gonna be in the wingfield. Yeah, yeah, yes, I had to get one in. Yeah, no doubt about it. Man. My hands are back. Huh your hands? Yeah. It fluctuates with you, big Seth Man, but I'm glad they're back. Man. I don't know what you're gonna open with, man, but I'm glad my hands are back. Bro. So best hands is better than the only podcaster to be an honorary captain for a seventy point performance. That about the same. I'll take both, all right, I'll take both of them. The living room man, a friend I haven't seen in a long time Lorenzo Bromel dies into the tank. Lo Bro, how are you feeling, man? Good to see comics weekend? Oh yeah, man, it was awesome. Yeah, it was awesome. Man. It was good to get back to old guys and see my buddies. Man. So, I don't know, man, you know how like family is. You can be gone, you might go to college, get a job, move around, but the family union come every time you see each other. It's like, I don't care how many years go by. It's just a smile on our face, like, OJ, what's up? And it's genuine, you know. And Timbo So yeah, awesome, man. Yeah, we're definitely gonna talk about you because them two was hanging out. It was hanging out tough, big tough. Oh yeah yeah. But we're gonna get into that to pick with you. So when I got already, I talked. I talked to Eric. Eric said, hey, you know what seth. Of course I th self. She was like, you know him and know they got the podcast? I said, I didn't know. That's like, I'm gonna shend you a clipping of Timbo. So I saw this wonderful podcast clip of Timbo, which is my big brother, by the way, and it was awesome and phenomenal. But you said something that was incorrect. You said two people used to come in without suits. Remember, as a rookie, Jimmy Johnson kated me and said, loo, I love your timbos, I love your gee. Just put a collar shirt on. So he allowed me to do that. Why know you had that. I had a little touch, a little special for him. They okay a rookie to pull that off, because he's a bad man and specialist. I was done my rookie years. I got that designation as a rookie, So maybe he did that for that in the Yankees cap I know, I never too. I'm always warning. I grew up on eighty first Grand Concourse, twenty blocks from Yankee Stadium. I used to walk to the Yankee Stated with my granddaddy and watching my granddaddy. I'm not really truthfully, I'm not a baseball fan. I just loved the Yankees because my granddaddy loved the Yankee. He loved two teams, and it didn't make sense when I was young. He loved the Yankees and he loved the La Dodgers. Tommy Lasorda. I knew who he was the general manager, even though I was in the South Bronx of New York. And one day, when I got older, I asked my granddad. I was like, how you like the LA Dodgers and you from New York City? He said, young man, they used to be Brooklyn. Okay, I got you. So now I kind of rock with them too. I like you. Let's let's talk about that attire. Let's talk about that New York Yankee hat that you always rock, you know, talk about his tire on the plane that he was allowed to wear. You know, I mean I realized I wasn't that special. Jimmy, let me get away with that. I didn't ask, man, because you know, Jimmy, Jimmy didn't like me, so I didn't, you know, so I just you know, I left it as it was to check that. Yeah, he loved you. Yeah, all right, all right, But you got the Yankees cap, you know, you wrap the Yankees all the time. You have that kind of that New York kind of accent, that New York vibe. But you're from South Carolina. Please help me, let me reconcile that. Please let me break this down to you. So I'm the youngest so everybody in my family in New York, nobody called me Lorenzo. Everybody calls me baby. I had baby before cash money baby. I don't know if he ordered it baby a bunch of babies. I'm gonna be honest. I hated that name as a kid. My aunt's uncles, everybody Baby. I'm in the middle of New York's teady. I'm like, damn, that's somebody calling me, Like who called it? Right? So what happened is my mom and dad got married early. My mom and dad split. My mom left after I was born and took my older brother and I to New York, where she from. My mom grew up in New York, but she got in trouble in high school. My grandma sent her down south. And you know, back in like the seventies and sixty you get married at fifteen sixteen years old normally because it probably got pregnant. So that's what happened with my dad. So they split. She left when I was probably six months five months. I was a baby baby, and she raised me and my brother in New York City all the way into high I came down south in high school, so like as an infant, you went to Yeah, babe. She took me and my brother's two years older than me, Orlando, which is my older brother. Now our oldest sister died as a baby, so they had three kids. But she left when I was about six months maybe seven months. My aunt came and got her moved us back. We didn't go to the Bronx though. We went to Harlem. That's with my family from one hundred and fifteen in Lennox which is Foster Projects, and we were there. Then we moved to the Bronx and then I was there until I was in high school. Started getting in trouble and my mom sent me down south, and I remember telling her. She came to me and was like, you got you gotta go. And I was like, I'm not going nowhere. I'm probably fifteen sixteen, and she was like, you get out of here. You getting the p out of this house, and she sent me reluctantly. I went. But be honest with you, that saved my life because if I stayed in New York, I was either gonna be in jail or dead or whatever. And it wasn't that I was a bad kid. It's just what's around the environment. It's kind of hard to hopscotch. And my mom did a great job. My mom was NYPD. But school division, you know up north. You know what Juice in Ohio. I was going through metal Detexas since so I was in middle school. That's nothing new, you know what I'm saying. So it was that type of environment already. So who all went back? Did you and Orlando go back? Or my mom sent? My mom sent my brother probably two years before me, because he was already hitting in the stuff. So she saw the blueprint work with him kind of straight and you know, the south slower, but she was trying to keep baby home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then after a while she and it was the best decision she did. I love it. Well. The part of the reason I'm trying to connect these right is because, well, first of all, in your bio anything, I look, there's no New York is nowhere. It's only those of us who know you. Anybody who's heard you have certainly seen that chat. The New York thing says you were born in South Carolina, says you graduated from choppy high school school. I'm gonna tell you it's star studded man. There's some great players the greatest player in my opinion, that came from my little one A school is Jumpy Gather. Most guys heard of him star super Bowl Championship, and he had a couple brothers. Quite a few Gathers. That's in the NFL. Okay, well, so this is what I wanted to ask you a question. Can you talk about quite a few Gathers. I happened to crazy. I found it but online it was a nineteen ninety Choppy high yearbook, okay, And I'm like, all right, I'm gonna find Lorenzo Bromels photo. And I was like, okay, you're a couple of years younger than me. You're probably a freshman around this time that this book came out. Bro, there had to be eighteen Bromels, I said. I called dude. I'm like, Jo, there's there's this Bromil that broken class. Orlando Bromil was there, Sean Bromel, Bromel this. I can't do the math here, but I couldn't find the runso Bromil. So every Bromail in the book was there. There was a there was another one with an L. I was like, I don't want it. Yeah, maybe, yeah, there's a bunch of us, man, I mean it was it just and gathers in the school. You know, it's funny. Well, and that's what it is. And that's kind of how that area is kind of separated. So for example, where my surname comes from, Bromels, we own three hundred acres of land back there because we literally when my dad them from we in between. Let me see, everybody heard of murdle Beach. Murdle BEA's like twenty minutes from my dad's house. Georgetown. Some people heard of Georgetown because that's what they said was the school in Georgetown. Yeah, it's in Georgetown County. It's really choppy. It's not Georgetown, but literally, you know how the south is, it's like twelve miles. It's another little city fifteen it's like that, like that, man, but it's a small country country town. But a lot of good athletes from that area. You heard of re Allen. Of course, re Allen went the Hillcresh High School, which is in something twenty five minutes from my from where my dad is. So he had to play every bro Mail That was pretty much pretty much in basketball, Well, Sean Bromel was on every team. Yeah, he was saw that through this book. I was like, just every page there's three more bro maes a lot, And I'm gonna say this to be honest, I'm not lying to you. Guys Like my family is very, very athletic kind of guys, like most of them would have easily went to the NFL. But the Choppy didn't really push my area so much. They pushed where Jumpie family was from, knock on Thegethers, but that area where they from, they kind of pushed those guys. My area where we're from was more of the country bad a guys. You know, you could say, you know what I'm saying, right, I get a little more stuff going on in those areas now, not saying the other ones didn't, but it was just like a stigma to our guys. So we really didn't get any help, to be honest, my senior year in high school, nobody even knew who I was. I got drafted. I signed with Auburn University out of high school, but my grades was so bad that I had to go to Georgia Military. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna talk about that. And he gave me a little nugget except a second ago about going to the Juco Georgia Military. But we're gonna talk about that in a second, so let's go. You were from Topy to Georgia Military College to Clemson yep, right, which is a sore spot for me because he told me that Joe Paterno wanted to come to Penn State personally, personally go to Penn State. I couldn't go for my dad. I'm gonna tell you something, man, my dad. Man. I love my mom and my dad, both of them, man, But I tell you what, growing up the way I did and not having my dad did like I kind of resented him when I was young. But I thank God for the good kind of mom I had, because I remember I was getting a little older, and I remember one day I came in the house and I was like, Yo, why Daddy not here? You know, trying to you know, getting grown up things. My mom really, I had to get picked up from where he's sitting there on the chair over there with the computer, and she said, get back over here. Don't you disrespect your father in his house. We not together because a grown up thing. Your dad loved you. Y'all have a dad even though he all the way down in South Carolina, you have a dad. Now. Another thing she did anytime we were out of school, we had to go down south. I was flying on planes or get taking that long greyhound bus since I was a kid going down there. So she forced that relationship. And the first time I went down there, I remember Oja and said, I was like, man, I want to go down to the dang on South Carolina. But guess what, I'm down there shooting guns, I'm riding four wheelers, I'm lying dirt, I'm riding horses. We got so much land. I'm like, yo, I love it out here. So I used to look forward to it. And really that's when football really got introduced to me. I know, if I was really good in basketball, I'm nor if basketball is what it is, of course, but down south it's a little bit of both in the country, but football the major and my family was really good. So I was like, all right, I gotta get in where the same thing come in. I mean, so all right, get into that, right. I ended up going to Georgia all in. But I don't get it well. So I'm going from I'll go to Georgia Military. I'm highly recruited out of Georgia Military. Probably. I think my sophomore year I had sixteen seventeen sacks. First year I ever played defensive line in my life. I played middle linebacker in high school and I was very good and tight end. So I go to Georgia Military. We so studied at Georgia Military. I don't even play defense as a freshman. I played tight end as a freshman sophomore year spring practice. Come up, Robert Nunn, Who you remember Robert Nunn. Oh, I'm gonna give you a story. You don't remember this juice At the end of my rookie year, after we lost to Denver second round of player they spent us to we had to do our exit a meeting. You don't remember. Jimmy up there on the stage at the end of the meeting and said, ain't low and everybody looked back and the D line we always in the back, the back, right. He said, we finally got somebody that could calm He said something like that could calm you old you know, walking down, and everybody looked like, who who you got calm them down? He said, Robert Nunny, I remember my smile drop. Oh, so he knew there was history. Yeah, Robert Nunn is an excellent, phenomenal coach. Robert Nunn came to get me before you had the spring ball. Remember I played tight end my freshman year. Now I have every school in the country sending me recruit letters. I'm six for six and a half. I'm running like the wind. I can jump catch you, ain't. I can do everything. Hell, but I'm just being six and a half. When I played in the NFL, there was no six six and a half that correct. That's why I'm telling you what I'm saying. Troy was this street and he was one of the bigger guys. So I was like, kind of I was before Jimmy Graham size guy coming in right. So I didn't want to transfer. So the spring ball coming up, Robert None called me to his office. I go in his office and Hesta Lorenz sit out and I'm thinking, dangn what did I do that? He caught me and I don't know. He said, you're gonna move to defensive end. I was like, defensive end. I was like, no, I'm good. I never played that. Coach. He said, trust me, you're gonna be like a fish in the water, and literally that's what it was. I never played defensive end in my life. I played middle linebacker in high school, but that's when Penn State, Joe Paternal claimed because now I graduated, played defensive end, had a bunch of sacks in the first year ever played it. Joe Paternal used to call my house that was recruiting me, and he said, you come in here, come here, we'll take care of everything. I didn't read between the lines, but I want that was my first choice. But my daddy's from what state? What school did I go? Crimson, Clemson. I try to make that a shorter drive for my dad because for two years, my daddy ain't missed no games. And OJ can tell you this right now. For four years that I got here, my daddy ain't missed for probably two games, and that's because of funeral every I'm a member of the time I came in the locker room my dad, when I walked in the t and our cafeteria, Dan Marino sitting here, Jimmy Johnson sitting here, Jason Dad, my daddy, my cousin, all kinds of people, and I walk in that door. I prompt you, I remember this. I walked into cafeteria and Jimmy, Hey lo, how do you tell us, mister Bromao coming from he set in front of everybody. Mister Bromel, we know you're going to be here any Friday. You get here early, come and watch us practice and have lunch with us. That's the biggest compliment I could give them. The biggest thing I can give to my dad is something I'll never forget. Yeah, cause that makes me feel good. It's like, dang, that's appreciation for you supporting me. He must have just yeah, love it. He was in heaven. He was a humble country guy. You know what you're saying with Damn Marino. But all he cared about he hated us losing. Like my father loved the Dolphins. He loved us. He loved the guy he acts about them, I mean talking and gotch like that. I ain't see him in a while, but he's plugged in. Man. He built a relationship like I did the four years hours. So that's dope. Man. Let's talk about nineteen ninety eight. Kenny mix is draft in the second round. You draft in the fourth round, yes, sir, and you guys already had a d line that had a few vets already in there, Trace Armstrong, Timbo, even Danny Stubbs in there. Yeah, you know, then you have some Then you have some young talented dudes, Daryl Gard, Daryl, Shane, Burton, JT. Of course it was in the second year. And then of course you and Kenny yep, the young bucks. You know, I mean, talk about that, bro and explain to me and saying how you guys got anything done with that with that crib? I mean seriously, I would be honest. It was hard to get a lot done seriously off the field. But one thing I respect, man, We we love supported and encouraged each other like extremely extremely hard, very competitively, brotherly, competitively love like we was not having it like we walked in there. I'm gonna tell you right now, from the gate coming into the Miami Timbo my big brother. I love them. I tell everybody that's my brother. I've literally I've known O J and U Seth for twenty five Crazy, isn't it. I got drafted in nineteen ninety eight. You count the years and I don't see the math. Yeah, and the math is mathing on there. So the point is we had a standard with tim, We had a standard with Dow we had a stand up with trades. Trace was the profession. He learned the plays low. Now you could be as good as you want to be on the plays. We can't play. We need you out here. And it was a lot of pressure on me too, because to be honest with you, I don't know if you if you guys ever paid attention. I played every position on D line. I played right in being six as you get for being sixty six and big and athletic, but not really big big to y'all think about it. I weighed two hundred and forty pounds to forty Yeah, sixty yea. Because they got you on Nicko and Don Where was I starting? No? I know because Jen so they put me and js I'm gonna tell you like this, me and j T. I might have outweighed JT for probably the first three years by five pounds, so we was always very close. JT and I used to sneak to the weight room and go slip two and a half pounds in our girdles because you know, we had the way in So me and Jay TV click click click click walking when I'm walking to John right, I'm always walking to Yohn with my hands like, hey, little fellas, put your hands off your pocket and we get up there. Oh yeah, you two forty five, two fifty low, go ahead, and I don't get fine. So we were little. But see the thing about it is is Jimmy had me playing. Jimmy had and back then that was coach. There wasn't CB at first, memory had Erry Cadet coach said look, you gotta play right in, right tackle, left defensive tackle, left defensive end, stand up linebacker. I'm the only one on that four that did that, so I had to learn more plays than everybody. So what it was is once Jimmy and they started telling and say, Loo, you gotta you're gonna be more valuable because you we can move you around anywhere. Now, I'm not gonna ain't gonna put me on first and second down tackle obviously I'm two sixty, but on passing down that puts a disadvantage on who the offense. That guy's gonna have a hard time keeping up with me down there in them trenches. So we played smart. We maximize our ability. We had more speed on the field. Jason me trace right. Then you got a real big you know, Darrel was a big, fast four to seven four guy who's three point thirty right, So he was the plug in there. We were very dominant, and I'm telling you it was competitive, and we make train noises crashes. If you got random, you're gonna hear about it. You hear about it. Yeah, that's too good, you know. So we spoke with Trace. I told you we made a few phone calls and he said it was the best D line room. And you know, Tracey's played long time. He played Chicago, he said, but that was the most fun he ever had on and off the field. I mean, worked hard, but you guys had a great time. But he said, in those meeting rooms, he said, asked, he said, he said, asked Lorenzo what I did to him and Kenny if they ever fell asleep in the meeting room. He was do all kinds of things, trying to remember. Man, he'd be throwing things that Tracey didn't play that now. He was very serious about that. Remember you heard me mentioned earlier because he told me that, because you know it's hard for me. I was like, okay, I'm at tackled on this play. What was it called? So now it might be something totally different than if I'm in I might got to drop right, So I used to mess up a little bit my rookie year. Well, he said he would write see all kinds of stuff. Trace would do anything. But guess what when we walked in that locker room, we had that plan, we had that mission, and we stuck together. I loved that defense. Out of all the teams are the four teams I played for, this is the by far my favorite team. For one, I did the most time here. You know what I'm saying. I love the Dolphins. Made it sound like a hopefully you get out some jobs. But Trace also said he goes, but you got to ask him about the three man games. He goes. I think half, if not more, of his sacks came on running those three man games. Not no, he ain't got no. I probably got a good no. I probably got about six or seven out of that. But we were good at it. Yeah, That's what I'm saying. With think about it, Trayce, Armstrong, Me and JT. I'm not using Darrow on that situation, cause Thatll can just be the guy on his own. But you got three pretty athletic guys that can move around a little bit, and we're kind of fiting Darrow this way and I'm this way, and Trace coming around this way or vice versa. Was JT coming. It was a problem, like literally was a problem, man, But I did. We were really good at those games, two man games and three man games, so we maximize it. I loved it. Man. Well I'll tell you what. Here go a little trivia for you guys. Go Google from nineteen ninety eight to two thousand and two. Google our rankings on defense. There's only three categories, run defense, pass defense, and sacks. See what we ranked in them four years that I was here. I can tell you right now it was one in every category. I think the least we might have been in two and one of the three, but mostly it was one one one, one, two one something like that. Was always losing the top three on defense. Forget Google, we got we got it. Prove it wrong. I love it. Yeah. And it wasn't the D line. You can't get SATs without the guys in the we know, Sam and Pat right, bron Mar Yeah. I mean we were we were stacked many damn man. I don't even talk about how stack we were. And we didn't get anything done anyhow. Anyhow, you know, but it wasn't all funny games as we all know. You know what I mean. I recalled it. You and Timbo at one point had your big brother Tembo had a little beef. Yeah we did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was That was one time. It was only one time we had an issue like that. So takes one person. I don't want to have beef with Timbo, but bro man, no time, no time. And it really I'm gonna say that it really wasn't beef. But what it is is we crack on each other like we usually do. And we was in the our d line meeting room. So I said something to tim He guessed that he didn't like him. He said something back to me. I didn't like it, and then we kind of shot jabbed at each other. We was playing racketball with each other for a little while, and all of a sudden he jumped up. You know, Tim stood though you say I jumped up, Oh boy, what's good man up? You know, it was kind of it was very contentious, man, And then really ultimately they sent me home. And I didn't like that now, to be honest, because at that time who we had, yeah, it was c B. Then C b said get go go home, Low, go home. We mean I go home? About tim you go, And then Dave Watstack came in and and told me to leave and up leaving. And what's funny is usually something like that happened. We're gonna get over tomorrow, but really it went four or five weeks like it fester and I'm gonna tell you. One day, I came into the locker room early in the morning, and when I did, I knew something was up because you know, we're coming in through the side door and the whole damn team was right there like like everybody looking at to get at me. Come here, Low. So I walked straight to the crowd and like, what's up man? It was like yo, man, look this is spewing over to games like we kind of we don't operate like that. And Timbo was sitting in his locker. I'm at my I'm standing here, and he was like, y'all gotta hug it out, and Timbo yelled out some of us our shot was back. Then he said something like no, no, I love him, and I said, you know I love him too, and we hugged and then we was right back to business. It wasn't nothing serious hereous, but we kind of got our prides and then we kind of didn't talk for a while. Man, they're still tight. You just have seen the real estate they were holding up. They had the best spot in the house. Yeah, they were back in the nobody going to work every day. And Tim Bones is pissed out. Oh yeah, timbo a problem, man, A good, good problem on your side. Right. But you know I'm a New York kid too. I ain't Tim Tim, Tim and Tim and that's my big brother. I love him, respect him, but if he got to beat me up, you gotta beat me up, my man. I mean that type. That's the type of energy way. So, but we're gonna fight every day. He know that too, So maybe you're gonna get tired one day, big fella. I can't do nothing with Tim. I've seen this man strip gears, you know what I mean by that? S in our film room when that ball snap, everybody's supposed to be going what forward. I've seen this man take grown men that outweighed me literally by one hundred pounds, and stripped them in reverse where they were going forward, and then when they got they's talking to go backwards. I don't seen that for years. That man is ridiculously strong. That shot out like he had no reverse in his gearbox. So for you to say he was a problem, Jim Bownes with one of the by far, in my opinion, one of the best defensive tackles I played with by far. You're not moving them off the line. You've got to have two on them, and good luck with two right, selfless? Selfless too, So I'm going backwards now we're bouncing around, but going back to an interview course approves. So but your rookie year you talked about how collectively you guys were a problem. You set or tied a team record with eight sacks. You'll stanfold. So that was the team sixteen nineteen I still currently co owned. Yeah. Well actually Jalen Phillips just got you this year. Well he's in his third year now, so he got eight and a half. But you guys in his rookie year. So I'm still on the list rights four years. I don't have a little extra jacket over here. Should I have a jacket? We talk right right? Yeah, held this for twenty five years. Thankfully. I'm just a podcast hosting guys not to deal with it. But so talk about that, Why were you able to find that kind of success? I mean, you know, you did talk about all the different things he had to learn, all the different positions. But for a guy who really just started playing defensive end three years earlier, how were you able to find that kind of success at this level that quickly? Man? It was just a natural position for me. Man, I couldn't run like the win. I'm strong. Even though I was small as a d lineman, I was strong. I used to do three fifteen, twelve, thirteen, fourteen times. Think about that at two thirty five, two forty, So I was strong. I had good and Plus, I'm gonna be honest with yourself. I think personally. I think my martial arts because I took martial arts growing up. Fight in tournaments. Now, I'm not saying I was some great fight in a tournament, but I knew how to fight. And literally in football, it's the same concept. An offensive lineman. I don't care how big he is. This is what I tell young kids. That's why I teach my little eight year old he got a step, he got a step, and he gotta do what get his hand? So what's the difference between somebody punching at you or reaching to hit you with his hand. If I'm deflecting that hand and moving my body that way, I'm clearly out of his way. I got body control. I'm just running around fort the band. So I'm telling you for real, the end of my rookie. So, like you said, my rookie, I had eight sacks, right, I had eight sacks as a rookie. I led all rookies in sacks that year. I also made the Pro Bowl as a rookie as an alternate, and I wasn't happy Jimmy. Jimmy said it at the end when they call out the Pro Bowl people, because I think Timbo made it my rookie year ninety eight or Zach one of them. One of the year was somebody It was only like two of us. Zach was ninety eight or tim was ninety eight, one of the two, because then it was somebody else, I think on special team for us. And then he was like laughing out least. Lorenzo made it as an alternate, and I remember everybody was like oh, yelling like low, what's up? And I'm like, what the hell is right? Alternate? And I was like, and then they was like, oh, you know, if one of the starters don't go or get hurt, you'd be that guy. I'm like, man, I don't want that. I remember saying that. Jimmy saw that. Jimmy walked over there to me and said, lo, you don't seem too happy. I said, man, I made it as an alternate. He said, you're a rookie. He said, rookie is gonna make it no kind of way correct. And he when he said that, he kind of said, he said, you gotta look you special. Don't take that. That's a compliment. And then I was like, all right, cool, but yeah, I mean hell, I was eight years in and didn't get alternate the same esav that's Robert and the other thing too. Of the rookie that I'm proud of, I didn't get it. But I was a finalist for Defensive Rookie of the Year. Me and Charles Wilson was the two battlety. Obviously, Charles Wilson went to Michigan one heisman. He had five interceptions our rookie year. I end up playing with Woody I wanted I wanted to. I started with the Raider, but we and him used to shoot jab like how you get Rookie of the year you had five shot problem with that. He's got a gold jacket now, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. He did started. He came in in the first round and you should have. You're gonna do at least for five man, let me say something having five years. Look, we've talked about Kenny mixing a lot. Yeah, partly because you guys are drafted in the same class, and of course that makes a lot of sense, but you guys also for as a hell of friendship along the way to man, talk about that bond between you and Kenny. Man, that's my brother. Man. I ain't seen Kenny now though, and probably be like seven months or eight months, but Kenny. I still see Kenny where I live in the Panhandle because I'm right off of ten, so you know he and he's from Jennings, Louisiana, so he was somewhere in between like Tampa Orlando. So anytime he drive home, he'll call me like, lo, I'm on ten. I'm like, yo, Man, I'm at the house, come on buy and I'll be trying to keep him to stay at the house so he'll come and chill with the family and stuff like that. So we still get along, still talk, but I don't talk to him as much since he moved back to Jennings. But he's doing okay. You know. Obviously he had a tough pill man with Aubrey quite a few years back. You know, it's funny, man, Aubrey, I held as a kid, Patrick Sherantan Jr. I held a little me and Pat like you know me. Pat and Kenny came in together so like brothers, like for real, for real, and I remember both for their kids, little boys at that time and stuff. And you know, it hurt Kenny everyding since that happened with his son on and stuff obviously. But he know, he's doing all right. He's doing a guest as guest best as he can. Yeah, you know what I mean. But that that special relationship you got no matter what. Yeah, I love that part about it. Yeah, man, and I love the same dras, so I get Yeah, he was that's my brother, man. And if anything he ever needs anything I ever need, we can call on each other. I talked to Mama. Mama still called me son, so yeah, they're good. People call you baby, all right, lod. So here's the moment we've been waiting for. Talk to me. November eleventh, two thousand and one. I don't if the date jumps out of you, but we'll connect the dots. We're in Indy, Indiannapolis, Peyton manny okay, colts are up twenty four to twenty. They're driving. Oh yeah, we don't want him to go up to sports. Yeah, third and thirteen. Yeah. J T beats the left tackle like a drum. You and Trace do play a little game ran inside he ran et Yeah yeah, yeah, you come flying around. J T blast Peyton right into you, who drills him right under his helmet. Yeah, I do remember that. That was That was bad. That was fifteen thousand, five hundred dollars five and a broken jaw and a broken jaw. But I'm gonna say I got I got a bone to pick with that with the NFL because what they did was they retroactive me. See that year, which was my fourth year, right, So that's the year I got franchise. I got the franchise tag. They had to pay me. They didn't want to pay me, but they had to. So this first year, I'm making a million dollars in one season. This is my fourth year. Finally, now I've been productive, hyper productive for three years, because I think in what four years here, I had what twenty two SATs, twenty three sacks something like that. Right, that ain't too bad, right. So what they did was we played Carolina before indeed the week before that, and Chris Winky was the starting quarterback. I don't know if you remember. OJ caught him up there and I caught him on the sack and broke his ribs. He had to come out the game. Then they brought in Damian Craig, who my classmate from Auburn. I knocked him out with a concussion. I mean, who was our photographer back when we played cross Yeah, man, I love that guy. He had a picture. I had a picture. That's why he used to go to the track like, no, you should bring your bike out there. Cool guy, man. But he showed me a picture of when they brought Damien Craig in. I knocked him out with a concussion. And that picture you see when I'm hitting him right, his body like joting and his helmet like it's suspended in air. You can the guy took like a series of his helmet going up in the air and I said, oh snap, end of the story. We beat them, come back. We're getting ready for Indy. The eleventh weekend, Manila folder on my chair. None, you know what, I know what time that is, right, I've never been fined by the league, but oh wow, you got a lot of faith was on the other side of the ball. But oh tell you, oh day, we was tough, man. I've seen what those games to do to them defensive Listen, I don't know how you gotta wa with that assault right right, I couldn't get away with it now loud, not not anymore. So the following week we go play Indy that unfortunately, he you know, broke his jaw. That following he didn't break his jaw, you broke well, yeah, it happened right that next Wednesday, I had two Manila folders on my chair and I remember opening them. First one I saw it said, the NFL has fined you twelve thousand and five hundred dollars for breaking Chris Winkie's rid. That was two weeks ago. That just came out. So that I opened the second one, You've been fined fifteen thousand and five hundred dollars for breaking Peyton Man and jaw and I was like, Yo, this is crazy. Do the math fifteeny twelve months. Yeah, and then I got fined. Then I had to go to the board. Right, They asked me to come to the board and they told me, they said, mister Brottle Lorenzo, you can't keep playing like that. You're gonna you're hurting too many Premiere quarterbacks. So they said, you're gonna have to kind of dial it back or we're gonna continue to file find you. So this is my god honest truth what I told him. I said, you better have your pen ready because if I listen to y'all and I changed the way I played football, I'm gonna be watching it instead of playing it. And they were like all right, and I was like, you have a good day. Hung the phone. That was it. That was it. Now have you heard? So Peyton went on Pat McAfee's show. Oh, if you haven't heard, tell the story. No, you gotta watch. We got We'll have to play it for you before you leave. He said, I said some things to him. No, No, he was totally cool. I don't I don't think he said that, but he you know, he was as Ray Lucas would say. He was spitting catch up for sure, right and uh but he said, they find you twenty five hundred dollars and he's like, I think he had it in cash on him at the game entertainer he said that your agent called his agent and said, Lorenzo's asking if you'll speak on his behalf to the NFL because you're appealing to find Yeah. Yeah, it's like I can't wire shot. That's so. I guess there was a little bit of you know what's funny too. I'm gonna tell you what else is funny. So I played with the Giants right in Old four who we drafted Eli. Okay, so I remember when Eli came up to Actually he didn't draft you, like, yeah, well you know how they arranged, right, So I remember in training, I remember when he when Eli got there. Eli good guy man, very quiet, and you know he's funny when you know him. Yes, you know it's funny now his personality when he's came. He went to Penn State for a practice. Oh, it's one of those prank fields. Yeah, but I told him I could tell when I got around him the first time. He's a rookie obviously, I mean my seventh d at that time, so he kind of shell shock and I said, look, man, I came to I said, look, man, I never meant the dude hit break your brother, Joe. That just kind of happened. And I said, we teammates, so you don't got to worry about nothing, man. So he kind of gave me a smile, like, okay, thank you, sir. You probably liked it. I don't know, brother, good stuff. Man. You know, we talked a little bit about j T, and obviously you guys played a lot opposite each other, and then of course you're in the same meeting room and even you know, even had the same quarterback in the case. Yeah, uh a couple That was Zach who of course, you know, we spent a lot of time with his past weekend getting his Hall of famering. When you look back at that time period, how awesome was it knowing you played with two of the greatest players ever play on the football field. You know, for me, you know, I had to always get the Marino moment. You know, I got the JT moment, I had the Zach moment this past weekend. How how awesome is it for you that you know played with those guys as well. Man, it's super awesome man, very humbling. Like I said, we were more like family anyway. I never been jealous of JT's success while I was here doing our time together, or Trace or Tim or Zach. We all had that same kendred spirit. And to be honest with you, I oh, yeah, you know me, I was the more vocal one. I'm talking you know what out there? You brought that energy like and I so literally I started on nickel and dime since the day I came to the Dolphin. The only thing I didn't start on here was base, right that Jason started based, but he also started nickel and dime, and and Trace didn't start based, he started nickeling done. So we were the pass rush crew. So for me, man, the better you are, the better you are, the better he is, the better I am, the more we're gonna eat. So it was that type of mindset, and I think that kind of came from Robert Nunn, to be honest, because my joint, my JUCO, is a powerhouse, especially back then. If you google Georgie Melichip I lost one game in two years, and there's nothing but talent that comes through that every year right. And the point is I had a friend, My best friend in the world is Peppi's elder. He played six years in the league and all that very very physical defensive end, and he was for me. He pushed me the hardest out of any other player I ever played against. I'm talking about cause we both starting every day. So now it's just like if I started that left end, it would have been the same kind of energy with Trait, with not Trace, but with JT. Me and JT always shared deciding on Nickel, we kind of split and go kind of go where we want to go. So it was never we would never really compete, in my opinion, because on Nicko and Din we both always out here. So that's why I like football, because I want you to eat, JT. Because when you eat, it's gonna free up me, and if I'm eating, it's gonna free up somebody else. So we had that bond, and I think that's why we did so well. I'm telling you, really look at the stats on those three areas and especially the number of set We were a fifty something SAT team every year I was here, like we were always fifty something sacks in the higher echelon leading the league. What that means all of us are what eating and working. That's the mindset of a good defensive line. When you got seven guys that's eating like that, who you blocking? That's the problem. So that's the mindset I've always had. Take the jealousy out of it. You know why I like that Wilkins kid, not just because he's from Clemson. You see his energy? Oh j don't that kind of remind me when I don't know when you was on the sideline a time of time, ask saying, when you interview them as pat, when you interview them as Jack Zach, if you interview them, what kind of energy Broke Low brought in when he came in? Oh, low load coming in? You can hear Sam. I like to coach Sam right, But hey man, that that's why I love football. You need all eleven piece greatest team, not even question. So we talk about, you know, how you put the fear in quarterbacks especially you know, during a two minute drill, I said, we're gonna put the fear in you right now, cause we're gonna do a little bit of our own fish tank two minutes drill. Yes, we're gonna put two minutes up on the clock. Okay, we're gonna throw some hard hitting, fast action questions at you and see how you respond. All right, bring it on. I'm ready man, hurt me. Now there we go. All right, Okay, we have clearly established your love for all things in New York. Absolutely that I'm the President Yankees cap. That's right. Who does Lorenzo Bromel think is the greatest New York Yankee of all time? Greatest New York Yankee? Man? I guess a rod Man long bruth Mickey mano yo Yankee. No, I'm gonna say a rod because he did it on and off the field, because you know what, Yeah, okay, the sport is one phase one aspect, but what legacy you got behind it? Yeah, okay, don't get me wrong. And sometimes we put all our eggs in just the sport. We do, but we got a long life after that for sure. And that's why I kind of say greatest over totality. Right, the clock is running, Jimmy would no, No, you're good. Two minutes. You study kung fu as a kid, yes, sir? All right? Did your kung fu school used the slash system as well? And it's so what how what color do you wrack up to? We did. We did use the slash system, and I believe the highest I got was like a brown belt slash almost brown blackish. Okay, yeah, but you said you weren't you weren't the best at it. But I was pretty good. I was pretty good. All right, Okay, there we go. Last question. You played with three players in your career who had more than one hundred sacks. J T one hundred thirty nine and a half. Trace had more than one hundred, and as you said straight hand, So you played with three of those guys and a lot of other incredible defensive linemen. If you could put together the ultimate front four, you've got one play at four and ten to win the Super Bowl. You guys got to go stop the other team one pass rush. Who's on that front four? I can mix and match anybody someone you played with, Man, I gotta I gotta go with my guy man here, and I gotta bring JT out there on the right, because he and I called we did a lot of damage, right and then I will also bring in and I will also bring in Trace. I will bring in trades. I would put Trace at left end jt at right in and I would bring straight hand in and say, look, you gotta do what I did, and you forty pounds heavy, you know what, whichever tackle you want, I go to the Okay, So the fourth guy, the fourth right there, I think they got off the beat. It. I like that. I like that crew right there. Oh man, that was fun. We knew this was gonna be here. Yeah, and everybody reached out to all day. They were like, I don't think that any of them are going to miss this episode. They were looking forward to it. I'm so glad we connected. Man. I didn't know you're just right up the road, only a few hours away. So man, you got to stay in touch with us. I definitely will man. Thank you self, Thank you ol Ja. This is an awesome podcast. Thank you Cash, and thank you audience. I hope you all enjoyed it. It's been a pleasure. God blessed. Keep pressing on. Thanks for diving in Low Yes, sir, you're now diving into the fish tank. Just like Jew said. Thanks for diving into the fish tank. Presented by iHeartRadio. Be sure to follow us on whatever streaming platform you're using, and don't be afraid to rate the show or leave us a comment. We love your feedback and remember you can find us, as well as Drive Time with Travis Wingfield and all of our international partners on Miami Dolphins dot com at this time